I guess what I'm trying to say is that dks are just tanks, they don't have phenomenal damage unless you attack them/target them.

DK's are still really tanky, idk what you're going on about. Ever check out the earthen heart skill line?

My thoughts after only one day playing new patch....

My DK DPS went to hell. My new Recount numbers have changed significantly. My entire build is in jeopardy now. One Hand and Shield is no longer a DPS option, only PURE tank.

Shield Bash hurt bad. Literally lost more than half my DPS, more like 2/3 my DPS. When I compare my Recount numbers now with those from before patch, my shield bash damage went from ~300 to now about ~80. Wow..... Deadly Bash should have been renamed Deadly Tickle. One Hand and Shield skill line is now pure tank, no DPS at all.

That huge reduction in DPS, IMO, levels the playing ground with DK's. They can tank like gods, but have no DPS.

Weapon damage is low, and any class ability for damage is not utilized for long because ALL your magicka is going towards all your tanking abilities to keep you alive. Reflective Plate only lasts 4 seconds, and it is NOT a cheap skill. It drains magicka quickly, plus Razor Armor and Dragon blood. Magicka for me is over the soft cap, yet I burn through it like no one's business and have nothing for DPS abilities.

Overall I would not classify this patch as a "Buff" to DK's. My DPS, my killing speed, my Magicka usage, it all just went to hell. I'm now a pure tank, that relies on other people to kill things


E: Anyways, not mad, QQ'ing, or complaining.... just giving my observations so far. Still love the game and will work with different combos to adjust to this new change.

E2: All my playtime has been in PvE, not PvP.

This post was edited by MrMoJoRising on May 23 2014 06:55am

Here's the thing, bash was never meant to do the damage it did. Sword and board was meant to be a tank spec and now it is. You still have plenty of choices to faceroll as a DK. I haven't seen any of my guild's vr10 dks lose a wink of sleep over these changes rolling through craglorn content because most of them didn't shield bash as a dps. A few of our tanks are pissed because they can't easy mode things, but they'll adapt. This was a buff to DKS because they fixed and buffed a few of their abilities. It was a global nerf to all classes that just happened to hurt the FOTM bugged build (which hit all of the sword and board builds)

yup. Time to start working on my bow/resto staff templar

I need help with DPS. Magicka for me is all spent on defensive abilities I have nothing for offense, and I am over soft cap for Magicka.

Nothing even happened to DK. What are you complaining about? lol
The only real nerf was shield bash, which we all saw coming.
Ultimate gain for AoE isn't that big of a deal. You can use single target to even it out.
Their other abilities got buffed.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 23 2014 09:12am

What items are you using?
You better say full light armor with warlock set.

If you guys need help with builds I can help you become the overpowered class that you still are.

This post was edited by FroggyG on May 23 2014 09:16am

Pretty sure he was trolling

It was a obvious troll too

Trolling doesn't really matter to me. I just reply to what I see.