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Jul 19 2022 01:55pm
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I kind of want to respec my barb into full singer. Is it any viable in Hell ?

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Jul 19 2022 02:48pm
i tried it, horrible in my experience. does little to no dmg on P1 already, so you basically just kill mana pots at an absurd rate for nothing
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Jul 19 2022 10:39pm
Totally, for pit farming, but not much else in my opinion.
Can carry a 700+mf and have 5k life

I used singer on hc P8 and puts and it was super smooth, but not super fast (not slow either, average speed, good safety with huge HP pool + howl. Later I transition to pitzerker, but it was singer that taught me the ropes
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Jul 20 2022 05:48am)
i tried it, horrible in my experience. does little to no dmg on P1 already, so you basically just kill mana pots at an absurd rate for nothing


Same here...
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Jul 20 2022 06:55am
Mana consumption is absolutely terrible.

I dont think dmg is that bad
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Jul 20 2022 06:57am
Quote (joshd21 @ Jul 20 2022 08:55am)
Mana consumption is absolutely terrible.

I dont think dmg is that bad


can Insight solve this problem?
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Quote (MouetteGrise @ Jul 20 2022 08:57am)
can Insight solve this problem?



Insight is 100% necessary. Even then you’ll be consuming a ton of mana pots.

Insight + silk weave boots should make your mana problems go away.
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Quote (MouetteGrise @ Jul 20 2022 05:57am)
can Insight solve this problem?


Not alone. I used 7mf/+mana scs in inventory. I had enough mana for Merc to skip insight and use reapers. On p8 stone skin bosses are slow with insight since your singer damage isn't much. Merc is the killer, you the backup dancer.

Could also switch out gloves from chancies to frost burns and maybe an soj instead of a nagel.

Again, niche build, but very workable and something different.
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Jul 20 2022 09:50am
Dual spirit 35 /// insight on swap
Eni
Magefist
Arach or strings
Soj
Soj
Silkwaves
2barb/15fcr/xxxxx mana ammu
Immortal king ists or perf topazes or tirtir

Eth reapers 'ber'
Guilaume 'cham'
Treachury

Wc skillers
Torch
Annie
Mana scs

Does not kill to slow...

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Quote (gel87 @ Jul 20 2022 11:50am)
Dual spirit 35 /// insight on swap
Eni
Magefist
Arach or strings
Soj
Soj
Silkwaves
2barb/15fcr/xxxxx mana ammu
Immortal king ists or perf topazes or tirtir

Eth reapers 'ber'
Guilaume 'cham'
Treachury

Wc skillers
Torch
Annie
Mana scs

Does not kill to slow...


sounds really fun actually
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