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Apr 12 2022 04:06am
Rocking it w fortitude. I know the grief would add to smite dmg, other than that does it have more dmg output. My zeal will be either 5/5/5/5/10 or 5/5/5/5/9. So the ias is a moot point
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Apr 12 2022 04:37am
Grief faster?
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Apr 12 2022 10:30am
In a pb, it will be faster, but not really by much. The botd is in an eth BA so their speeds are similar. Like I said, w zeal (no fanaticism) it’s really 4.16 atks per second vs 4.46 atks per second. It kind comes down to which one is the better weapon
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Apr 12 2022 11:37am
Quote (Frang888 @ Apr 13 2022 12:30am)
In a pb, it will be faster, but not really by much. The botd is in an eth BA so their speeds are similar. Like I said, w zeal (no fanaticism) it’s really 4.16 atks per second vs 4.46 atks per second. It kind comes down to which one is the better weapon



Grief has more physical damage and speed.
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Apr 12 2022 12:44pm
Grief does more damage, ebotdz is kind of nice for leech, 30 all attributes, and the 1 extra range.

This post was edited by Dr_Lecter on Apr 12 2022 12:45pm
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Quote (Dr_Lecter @ Apr 12 2022 02:44pm)
Grief does more damage, ebotdz is kind of nice for leech, 30 all attributes, and the 1 extra range.



If I rolled higher than a 354 w my botd…
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Quote (Frang888 @ Apr 12 2022 08:15pm)
If I rolled higher than a 354 w my botd…


total perfect botdz has 185-545 damage which is 365 on average
worst grief pb has 371-375 damage which is 373 on average
Edit: typo

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Apr 14 2022 06:56am
Beast is an option if you do Ubers :thumbsup:

Stormlash and even Crescent moon are not bad as well.
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Beast is an option if you do Ubers :thumbsup:

Stormlash and even Crescent moon are not bad as well.



Always thought about crescent moon w dual dreams. However the physical dmg is negligible in comparison two grief and botd.

I’ve heard that death is a bomb word for ubers bc you slam them with crushing blow almost every time. Add gore, gface and some cb gloves 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
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Quote (Frang888 @ Apr 14 2022 10:45pm)
Always thought about crescent moon w dual dreams. However the physical dmg is negligible in comparison two grief and botd.

I’ve heard that death is a bomb word for ubers bc you slam them with crushing blow almost every time. Add gore, gface and some cb gloves 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻


Grief has a lot more damage than botd.
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