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Jan 1 2022 01:52pm
I wanted to stack res for chaos but im not sure what I'm taking damage from exactly. I just know I take a chunk of damage when LR pops off.

I know about the venom lords & fire, but I'll lose health getting hit by something else. I don't know what elemental damage I'm taking or where it's coming from.

Does LR affect your damage from the bone spirits they shoot?

Anyways thanks, I have like 66FR, 44 light, and I think maxed cold when on LR so just trying to figure out where to put it. My psn resist is awful though.
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Jan 1 2022 01:57pm
Cold damage in general for pvm is extremely small and not really worth going out of your way to max.

The only 2 major sources of ele damage in chaos is lightning and fire.

Using 1x dwarf star ring for example makes the fire damage you take so low it doesn’t even matter anymore (assuming you also have 75 fire resist)

Without knowing what type of character and what build you are. And what gear you are using. It’s nearly impossible to give you any direction into what you should do
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Cold damage in general for pvm is extremely small and not really worth going out of your way to max.

The only 2 major sources of ele damage in chaos is lightning and fire.

Using 1x dwarf star ring for example makes the fire damage you take so low it doesn’t even matter anymore (assuming you also have 75 fire resist)

Without knowing what type of character and what build you are. And what gear you are using. It’s nearly impossible to give you any direction into what you should do


Blizz sorc, Hardcore, Vita/Max block with storm, for running chaos.

I'm just asking where I'm taking the elemental damage from.

Where in chaos is there lightning? The knights shoot bolts of all sorts of colors, maybe the blue ones are cold?

I just can't really tell.

Using a dwarf star is not preferable. I'm hitting my 105FCR breakpoint with 2xFCR rings. A 15fcr amulet would be too costly. I could maybe find a 5fcr amulet but I'd be sacrificing on the +3 cold/MF amulet I got.

This post was edited by EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH on Jan 1 2022 02:00pm
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MAx block in general for pvm is bad, especially for sorcs.

Sorc has terrible block frames, and thus max block will cause you to get stuck in block lock animation and thus not able to cast spells for damage or teleport out of a horde hitting you.

You would be much better served switching to spirit monarch and get survivability from items such as String of Ears, which is one of the biggest defensive pieces in the game for pvm.


As a blizz sorc for pvm in hardcore, I would use something like:
2 sorc/20fcr circlet
Fathom
Spirit mon
Enigma
String of ears
Wisp
Dwarf star
Magefist
2sorc/10fcr amulet
Boots can be aldurs for life/fire res or war travs for mf


This will make both lightning and fire dmaagw deal very little, with fire dmaagw most of the time actually healing you.

Plus you get 23 DR, max resists, high life, and good damage.

If you can’t afford fathom and a 2/20 sorc circlet, you could use hoto + Shako. Which will make your survivability even higher, at the cost of some damage.

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MAx block in general for pvm is bad, especially for sorcs.

Sorc has terrible block frames, and thus max block will cause you to get stuck in block lock animation and thus not able to cast spells for damage or teleport out of a horde hitting you.

You would be much better served switching to spirit monarch and get survivability from items such as String of Ears, which is one of the biggest defensive pieces in the game for pvm.


As a blizz sorc for pvm in hardcore, I would use something like:
2 sorc/20fcr circlet
Fathom
Spirit mon
Enigma
String of ears
Wisp
Dwarf star
Magefist
2sorc/10fcr amulet
Boots can be aldurs for life/fire res or war travs for mf


This will make both lightning and fire dmaagw deal very little, with fire dmaagw most of the time actually healing you.

Plus you get 23 DR, max resists, high life, and good damage.

If you can’t afford fathom and a 2/20 sorc circlet, you could use hoto + Shako. Which will make your survivability even higher, at the cost of some damage.


max block is great for pvm, and I'm in hardcore.

If I get stuck in block lock animation I can save and exit. I haven't had a problem where I couldn't tele out but I wouldn't be opposed to shael'ing my SS. I've done it before.

I need arach to hit 105fcr bp.

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As a blizz sorc for pvm in hardcore, I would use something like:
2 sorc/20fcr circlet
Fathom
Spirit mon
Enigma
String of ears
Wisp
Dwarf star
Magefist
2sorc/10fcr amulet
Boots can be aldurs for life/fire res or war travs for mf


I'd rather run shako for MF and DR.

100% not using spirit. Everyone goes SS in hardcore for a reason.

enigma. alright well I'm not affording that.

2sorc/10fcr amulet, again extremely expensive.

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Plus you get 23 DR, max resists, high life, and good damage.

If you can’t afford fathom and a 2/20 sorc circlet, you could use hoto + Shako. Which will make your survivability even higher, at the cost of some damage.


23DR isn't really enough. your build will get absolutely stomped by any sort of melee, ie fanat might extra fast packs. Especially with no block.

Maybe you guys do things a little different in softcore but no one I'd ever play less than 105fcr. You'd just do runs way too slow.

Fathom is cheap. Enigma, that circlet, that amulet, are not.

Appreciate the input but I'm really just asking what exactly am i taking damage from.
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Jan 4 2022 01:14pm
Use a rising sun amulet and you'll gain health by the lords fire
Make sure you have enough damage reduce (id take ~50% as a melee char) for the knights
The ghosts shouldnt be a problem at all
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Jan 5 2022 01:35am
Venom lords do huge amounts of damage per time in little chunks. Oblivion knights fire attacks inflict extra hurt so fire is the element to stack in cs. A common item that offers mdr is viper. Combined with a dwarftar which has got 13mdr, you hardly take damage at all from most elemental attacks in CS. 105fcr with viper is trivial: occu+viper+magefist+arachnid+1fcr ring. The other ring can be dwarfstar then.
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Quote (EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH @ Jan 1 2022 01:52pm)
I wanted to stack res for chaos but im not sure what I'm taking damage from exactly. I just know I take a chunk of damage when LR pops off.

I know about the venom lords & fire, but I'll lose health getting hit by something else. I don't know what elemental damage I'm taking or where it's coming from.

Does LR affect your damage from the bone spirits they shoot?

Anyways thanks, I have like 66FR, 44 light, and I think maxed cold when on LR so just trying to figure out where to put it. My psn resist is awful though.


The mages shoot all elemental types depending on the color of their glowing hands. And I'm not 100% on this but I think some use plain magic as well, which is hard to find resistance for... the only thing I can think of is a crafted safety shield with 10% magic res for that, along with some flat magic damage reduction.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Jan 5 2022 02:35am)
Venom lords do huge amounts of damage per time in little chunks. Oblivion knights fire attacks inflict extra hurt so fire is the element to stack in cs. A common item that offers mdr is viper. Combined with a dwarftar which has got 13mdr, you hardly take damage at all from most elemental attacks in CS. 105fcr with viper is trivial: occu+viper+magefist+arachnid+1fcr ring. The other ring can be dwarfstar then.


Definitely don't use occulus in hardcore the teleport will kill you. so you either use 2x fcr rings or a 20fcr amulet which is hard to come by.
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Jan 5 2022 07:49am
Quote (EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH @ Jan 5 2022 02:32pm)
Definitely don't use occulus in hardcore the teleport will kill you. so you either use 2x fcr rings or a 20fcr amulet which is hard to come by.


Ah, you play in hc? It's not in your initial post. In p1-3, you don't need DF, so a hoto would do. Even a spirit cs sword is good enough. With 35fcr would free up ring slots.
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