It's been always said that the dual dream has a stak of lvl 30 holy sock aura.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78657548&f=161&p=531162044
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56131078&f=87&p=375010566
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/comments/iven7n/dual_dream_stack/
https://diablo-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Dream_(Diablo_II_Rune_Word)

I've been doing some tests in 1 single player with a dual dream sorc, a dual dream paladin, and without the dual dream (just using the holy sock aura at level 30).
I've also put just an enigma, mara, and for the pala a cheated +6 offensive sk, to reach lvl 30 in native holy sock aura tests.
Sorc with the lighting domain +20, and pala with the salvation and resist lighting +20 for the bonus to the holy sock.

From the tests i've been done (about 5-7 tries each build):

Zaps to kill
DD pala..........DD sorc..........Native holy sock.............Monster............Place
7-10..................6-9................18-22........................brute............a1 - dark wood
1-2...................1-2..................1-5.........................carver............a1 - black marsh

The two things to notice is that:
-Dual dream is not like lvl 30 at all.
-Sorc kicks a little more than pala dual dream even when sorc has less +% lighting damage ( 326% lighting sk damage vs 384% bonus lighting damage)

Am I wrong?

*Edit: I did this tests because I was noticing this in bnet online, but i needed to do a single player more clean test.

This post was edited by tsumihoroboshi on Dec 29 2021 04:26am

yes, 2x dream pulses are better than 1x native holy shock pulse

With dual dream you have 2 items that emit a pulse, so you have 2 pulses that are both lvl30, with a native lvl30 aura, you just have one pulse.

Your test pretty much tells you the same, it takes about half the pulses to kill them with dual dream (keep in mind a sample of 5-7 is very low).



Also this numbers are kinda weird, salvation gives 4% per hard point and resist lightning 12% per hard point, if you max both, you get 320% (4*20 + 12*20) and not 384% sinergyes only apply for hard points, not total skill points, your enigma and mara (I guess that why you have lvl24) are not doing anything there.

So 326% (lvl24 lightning mastery) > 320% from max salvation and resist lightning with also explain why the sorc did it a bit better, even if the difference is small and with only 5-7 tries it could have gone the other way around, since both have mostly the same bonus.

This post was edited by Titus1986 on Dec 29 2021 07:58am

Oh thanks so much for the info. :)

Still wonder why in direct attack sorc deals >3x pala's damage (both with dual dream):

https://i.postimg.cc/hgpkrh4Y/palasorc.png

*edit: when removed enigma&mara for sorc the real damage is 24k, still >3x pala's

This post was edited by tsumihoroboshi on Dec 29 2021 08:15am

Oh, that because lightning mastery (or any form of +lightning damage, like griffon) is applied twice, while synergies only applied once.

+% Lightning Skill Damage is applied to skill damage before it's added to weapon damage, then it's applied a second time to melee attacks.

So, you have four time more damage on the sorc, like in that pic.

Maths:

Lvl 30 holy shock 1-1668
For pala: 4.2*1668 = 7005 damage like in your pic.
For sorc: 4.26 (lvl24 lightning mastery) *1668 = 7105, and then if you hit a melee attack it applied again, so 7105*4.26 = 30.267 (so 30k like the pic)

If you remove mara and enigma, lvl20 lightning mastery:

1668*3.78 = 6305 and for a melee attack 6305*3.78 = 23.832 (so 24k in the char screen, like you said).

Keep in mind that regular attack is considered a melee attack so the displayed damage is already after applying the lightning mastery twice.

This post was edited by Titus1986 on Dec 29 2021 08:33am

:drool:

I edited you the maths just now, that why dual dream sorc is such a monster that can reach over 100k dps easily.

This post was edited by Titus1986 on Dec 29 2021 08:35am

it's 2 lvl30 pulses


synergies are (12+4)*20=320 %


because mastery boosts the aura buff and then when you attack in melee it boosts the attack itself so in total it multiplies the dmg by 4.26^2=18

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