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Nov 20 2021 03:58pm
Hey Y'all!

I have a Hardcore lvl 75 Zon and am resetting my stats soon and am considering getting valk. I have shied away from it since the issues with Dodge, avoid, and evade. however I am terrified to move forward in hell and would really like a tank. a tank that also maybe doesnt do only light damage.
my LF damage is fine and I definitely have the points to spend. just looking for some insight on how much she really helps, and how many points I need there.

Thanks!
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Nov 20 2021 07:07pm
You write "zon" and mention lightning fury, so i assume javazon.

Well, it's a fine line. If you have the high-end gear, including cta and all that, you will probably have 1500+ hit points and max resists. With javazon being a high damage character, it should not be necessary with a valkyrie. Your merc should be enough. You will just have to adapt the style a little bit in how to deal with lightning immunes. But again, with high-end gear, i do suppose that infinity will be used, which as far as i can figure out, will break almost all immunities. Only two monsters according to this list, is the megademon/pit lord and skeletal mage/horror mage:

https://diablo-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Immune_Monsters_(Diablo_II)#Lightning_3

but here it says all forms of megademons have 75% lr, so i don't know

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/act4-megademon.shtml

Either way, IF using high-end gear, it should not be necessary.


If using mid-range gear, then i would use it, as you would most likely not have more than ~800 hit points, mediocre resists, and using a lower resist wand for particular monster packs. Then you might need more time to apply lower resist and control the battle.

20 points should always be a staple on valkyrie. Even with 20 points, it is not invulnerable in hell. Only after 25-30 points does it really begin to get tanky.

The d/a/e thing i find is not a problem with javazons.. you are mostly attacking from range, and especially in hardcore, should be careful about going melee using charged strike. I've never found it to be a problem, more a benefit. At least avoid; Ranged attacks. I usually place a few points in that at least.

So it would decrease your damage a bit.. but unless you are one of those reckless people that don't care or play for fun, and just rush through hoping not to die, you should focus a bit on defensive strategy.
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Nov 21 2021 06:14am
I recommend getting it for safety purposes. One point will not suffice, she’ll die quite easily. I also wouldn’t plan for her damage outputt, even at high levels.

Lastly, add decoy to your hot keys, I always use it to see what’s around corners.
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Nov 21 2021 11:23am
I’d defentliy go for 20 hard point in valk! Helped me a lot with my Javazon in hell! The lower dmg and be countered with higher ias. So imo treachery Will be a must aswell. I would go for

Delirium - great crowd control with mindblast, terror and confuse
Titans
Treachery
Cats eye/ highlord or rare amu for skills
Sancuarty trollnest
Ravenfrost
Rare ring or bk5 or soj
Razortail
Aldurs boots
2/20 rare gloves with some res
This setup you would be able go maxblock Max resist with fade proc which is a great saftey
With this set up you can get to lk to farm for infinity
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Nov 21 2021 05:40pm
I play HC p8 and I only have 1 pt into valk, level 13 with +skills
She does on wave 2/3 sometimes in Baal, but not in pits or CS.

No problem recasting so don't overpump valk. It helps a ton to take some heat off Merc or give mobs/ranged attacks something else to throw at. I find valk itself is enough to negate the d/a/e effects in regular gameplay
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