Is fishy just better overall almost all the time? As far as mf cant fishy just stack much more mf since its so much less gear dependent? Is there really any point where poison nova will outshine fishy? Gear for nova is alot more expensive since fishy needs nothing really... I am just not sure if I am missing something when looking at both these necro builds.

It's really up to preference and the style you like. They can both clear Hell fine and do MFing. Personally I'm lazy as fuck so I love Fishymancer more.



This is true, you don't really need any specialized gear on Fishymancers. But you also don't really have to stack more than 200-300 MF anyway.



Poison can clear areas much faster, but you can be stopped by poison immunes. Summoner isn't blocked by any immunities but it's slower.

I would also say that you don't really have to choose, there are hybrid Poison/Summoner builds if you wanna do both!

This post was edited by Chaseduo on Sep 8 2021 05:22am

For poison though arent items like deaths web needed? Ive tried poison without gear like that and it just felt mediocre at best?

Well yeah, deaths web is going to be a huge increase in damage, kind of like deaths fathom for blizz sorcs, but you can still play without it. Its also not hard to get a mediocre deaths web to start out wit

Infinity increases a summon necros damage by at least 25% thanks to conviction lowering enemy defense, but you still get builds that use faith bow merc.

For general purpose pvm poison nec I like to use the rest of the points to max skeleton mastery and dump the rest into revive.

A fully geared poison necro is easily better than any summoner / corpse exploder or hybrid thereof
Poison necro is not that great without good gear, however. But a poison necro already easily outperforms summoners/exploders by the point you can get 3+ pieces of trangs (or full trangs) and death's web, let alone enigma.

Since poison nova really scales hard with +% / -% poison on gear, its not great if your gear sucks.

I forgot about trangs. Either way wont summoner still be better as far as killing bosses and having more mf?

This post was edited by NecroPk on Sep 9 2021 04:23pm

Yes

How is those builds for boss kills?

Summon nec is ok for boss kills with clay golem, decrepify, and cold mages slowing them to a crawl, but youre not going to be one shotting baal like you would with a decked out javazon.

Poison necro is kind of shit for boss kills unless you go max block and keep a fleshripper in the inventory. I usually put a point in revive and clay golem for meat shields.

Ok thanks