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Aug 13 2021 03:55am
Ok so I was supposed to pimp out my stylish (no ugly guillaume's) zon, and I know you're supposed to treat yourself to a beer when you clear UT on a bowazon, but over here the stars of the show have got to be the ubers' minions. It got cluttered real fast because of lag and a whole lot of very baffling RNG! But the ubers' minions completed the job for me and killed the ubers before it got turned into even more of a mess!

The video mostly just began at 22:20, and it was really worse than starting from a fresh portal. Just watch the ubers getting their asses popped by their own minions from the 20 minute mark onwards! Haha =D

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Aug 13 2021 08:05am
That's just crazy lol, difficult to replicate I think but challenge accepted.

What torch did you get BTW?
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Aug 13 2021 01:09pm
They were killed by crushing blow and open wounds.

'Hit Causes Monster to Flee' would work better.
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Aug 14 2021 05:56am
Quote (bob(Cs2) @ Aug 13 2021 10:05pm)
That's just crazy lol, difficult to replicate I think but challenge accepted.

What torch did you get BTW?


Was 20/13 dudu. Actually, it's really easy. Just have to remember to recast valk/decoy at the correct times and occasional strafe to recast AI procs, and also have to get the minions to spawn at the correct spots, can't be all over the place. This was actually a very slow clear time for that setup.

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They were killed by crushing blow and open wounds.

'Hit Causes Monster to Flee' would work better.


Actually, confuse is a really good proc. Confused minions actually tank, and unlike valk/decoy/mercenary they are not subject to the 4x damage multiplier from meph/diablo/baal. It also doesn't get overridden by amp so it's actually the perfect skill at uber trist xD
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Was 20/13 dudu. Actually, it's really easy. Just have to remember to recast valk/decoy at the correct times and occasional strafe to recast AI procs, and also have to get the minions to spawn at the correct spots, can't be all over the place. This was actually a very slow clear time for that setup.



Actually, confuse is a really good proc. Confused minions actually tank, and unlike valk/decoy/mercenary they are not subject to the 4x damage multiplier from meph/diablo/baal. It also doesn't get overridden by amp so it's actually the perfect skill at uber trist xD

No it's not, it causes mass AI aggro, like Bone Wall, which in turn causes huge lag due to the faulty scripting. Flee works much better because you can get the boss in a 1v1 and the Valk can tank it easily. I'll quote you to prove it:

Quote (thing @ Aug 13 2021 10:55am)
Ok so I was supposed to pimp out my stylish (no ugly guillaume's) zon, and I know you're supposed to treat yourself to a beer when you clear UT on a bowazon, but over here the stars of the show have got to be the ubers' minions. It got cluttered real fast because of lag and a whole lot of very baffling RNG! But the ubers' minions completed the job for me and killed the ubers before it got turned into even more of a mess!

The video mostly just began at 22:20, and it was really worse than starting from a fresh portal. Just watch the ubers getting their asses popped by their own minions from the 20 minute mark onwards! Haha =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwiIrVdH-G0

There's nothing baffling about it, we know how the game works by now.

This post was edited by piatek on Aug 14 2021 08:07am
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Oct 4 2021 05:05am
The valk only tanks if there are a few extra tanks. You wouldn't want to have to recast every few seconds while you are getting rid of meph xD

Confuse had nothing to do with the minion clutter. When I said it got cluttered it just meant that at the 9:10 - 9:44 mark the minions didn't gather in the structure at the east side but on the battle ground instead because it desynched for a while while putting the minions in there. Aggro or not it would've just been the same, because the minions would spawn to max anyway in the minimum 1-2 minutes it would take to kill meph with a bowa, even w/ perma amp and max cb, so you can't really complain about whether meph summons them all in 10 seconds or 20 seconds. Either way it was going to be infested with minions anyway. There were like massive lag spikes and low-odds RNG occurrences at the most crucial moments, all on the video description. The point is that the clear time could be a lot faster.
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