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May 15 2021 08:48am
Hello forum,

I am looking into a bow oriented amazon build and have stumbled, of course, upon the Faith runeword.

It has both 300% bonus to AR and ignores target's defense (let's call it ITD for this post)... Which makes me wonder whether I have understood something wrong.

From what I've read so far, ITD lowers the target's defense to zero, which means the chance to hit is only dependent on the character level and the foe's level. Which renders AR basically obsolete.

So, uh... What have I missed?

My experience with it so far is that my necro (level 85) is equipped with Brand, which does have ITD; I do have trouble hitting final bosses in Hell however, so what is what? Do final bosses have special "protections" against ITD or do I completely misunderstand what ITD is all about?
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Quote (notfge @ May 15 2021 10:48pm)
Hello forum,

I am looking into a bow oriented amazon build and have stumbled, of course, upon the Faith runeword.

It has both 300% bonus to AR and ignores target's defense (let's call it ITD for this post)... Which makes me wonder whether I have understood something wrong.

From what I've read so far, ITD lowers the target's defense to zero, which means the chance to hit is only dependent on the character level and the foe's level. Which renders AR basically obsolete.

So, uh... What have I missed?

My experience with it so far is that my necro (level 85) is equipped with Brand, which does have ITD; I do have trouble hitting final bosses in Hell however, so what is what? Do final bosses have special "protections" against ITD or do I completely misunderstand what ITD is all about?



ITD doesn’t work on bosses.
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May 15 2021 09:45am
Quote (Tarisus @ 15 May 2021 17:12)
ITD doesn’t work on bosses.



OK, that was not in the litterature I have read so far...

Can you be more specific as to which bosses? For instance, "normal" bosses such as Beetlebust, Pindleskin, Champions, act level bosses (which from what you tell me are an exception to ITD)?
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May 15 2021 09:47am
Found quote on wiki regarding ITD

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Ignores Target's Defense doesn't work in player versus player and does not work against Act Bosses. If a hireling is equipped with Ignore Target's Defense item (such as desert mercenary with The Reaper's Toll), it has no effect either.


Please remember that some monsters have got chance to block as well.
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May 15 2021 09:50am
Does not work on:

Act bosses
Boss monsters (pack bosses)
Champions


Ignore Target's Defense actually isn't exactly what it describes. It changes the formula, but does greatly increase the chance to hit, to the point where when you can use Faith, almost all monsters will have 95% chance to get hit.

"The chance to hit is calculated by following formula:

100 * AttackRating / (AttackRating + EnemyDefenseRating) * 2 * AttackerLevel / (AttackerLevel + EnemyLevel)

If we Ignore Target's Defense, it will simply change to:

200 * AttackerLevel / (AttackerLevel + EnemyLevel)

This means that if you still want to hit enemy with 95% chance, your level can be roughly 10% lower than the enemy level."
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May 15 2021 11:13am
Quote (AngelsLight @ 15 May 2021 17:47)
Found quote on wiki regarding ITD



Please remember that some monsters have got chance to block as well.



This I have seen... The animation on those "lowly" Flayed Ones do change when they block :p And I did expect that to happen, so no surprise there :p

Faith is therefore all the more appealing, but I then lose the ability to deal elemental damage compared to Brand... Ohwell, I'll see if I _can_ see what Faith gives...
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Quote (notfge @ 15 May 2021 19:13)
This I have seen... The animation on those "lowly" Flayed Ones do change when they block :p And I did expect that to happen, so no surprise there :p

Faith is therefore all the more appealing, but I then lose the ability to deal elemental damage compared to Brand... Ohwell, I'll see if I _can_ see what Faith gives...


Use Atma's Scarab + 100% Pierce + Ignore Target's Defense + Lvl 20 Strafe = Remove Physical Immunes = NN for elemental damage..................
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Quote (Taurean @ 15 May 2021 19:36)
Use Atma's Scarab + 100% Pierce + Ignore Target's Defense + Lvl 20 Strafe = Remove Physical Immunes = NN for elemental damage..................


Hold on. We are talking about a necromancer build here... How would you achieve level 20 Strafe to start with?
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May 16 2021 11:54pm
ignore target defense is pretty much useless
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