So when I use a +5% lightning facet, is the +5 damage in addition to the current skill level?

For example, level 50 lightning Fury does 1-3708 damage.
If I put in a +5% lightning facet does it increase the damage to 3893.

Just trying to compare it to additional + skills.



I noticed that going from level 50 to lvl 51 lightning fury only increases the damage by 90 according to the skill calculator I am using.


I am not worried about minus resistance.

Thanks

This post was edited by MoneysHc2 on Jan 27 2021 08:57am

yes, it is 5% increase after synergies

on java 1 rbf > 1 skill unless you can reach another "5 skill point" such as 40, 45, 50 because you gain an additional bolt on those
/e talking about cs here ofc ^

This post was edited by PlainOx on Jan 27 2021 09:04am

If I'm not completely braindead right now, the % damage from jewels adds to the % damage from synergies, so your damage wont be 3893.
Lvl50 lf does something like 1-2000 damage so one facet would add only +5% from base damage without synergies (~100max) instead of +5% from 1-3708 (which is the damage from lvl50 lf + synergies)
Still, it is more than what +1 skill would give you. Also -res is equally important especially against broken immunes.

In short it is:
1-2000 (from lvl50 lf) * 1,85 (80 from synergies, 5 from facet)

and not:
(1-2000*1,8)*1,05

hmm

actually looks like it would be about the same + damage than according to the 1st equation., about 90 damage if I'm not mistaken.

I know -res is important, if not more important. But not really the question I'm asking, as I am playing with friends an we are trying to optimize the java zon damage. Using a Lower Resist Necro -66 or so Resist and a level 25 convic paladin in our baal wave party. although, looking at it, I don't think we will need the necromancer at all, so we might have a sorceress come just static instead of a lower resist necromancer.

As I plan on having t-stroke, griffs, -20/20 armor, and possibly a -20/20 shield. Granted, looking at it now, appears I could potentially look at doing a 15 ias jewel instead of t-strokes that way I can use eth upped titans, to see if that produced more damage on average,

As I think my minus resist will be pretty maxed out. (-150 convic + -60 res from items excluding t-stroke and getting rid of 5/5 in griffs an putting a 15 ias jewel)

This post was edited by MoneysHc2 on Jan 27 2021 10:01am

Lvl50 lf has 1-2060 damage so +5% would be 103 damage.
If this
is correct, facet damage would be higher by 13.

15ias jewel > facet if you reach next bp

Well, it isn't just an easy swap of 15 ias jewel vs facet, it would be 15 ias jewel and upped eth titans vs +5 rbf and tstrokes.

Also,





yeah, you are correct sorry I'm using 45 instead of 50, as I saw that my fury lvl will actually be a maximum of 45. And at lvl 45 looks like +1 skill is equivalent to +5%.

check this thread: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84215881&f=87&o=0
several builds with full damage calculations there for baalruns, even with ias taken into account

hmmm thanks, I guess I don't see where it talks about LF My goal is to do a 1 hit kill with lightning fury, an minimal CS. As I am only focused primarily on waves.

For actual baal the sorc will beat the zon to him an static him down, so he will go down pretty quickly at least is my idea in theory.

for waves you only need 100% pierce and rather high damage, sorc casts static, java throws 1 fury, everything dead.
baal is the one you want to optimize your damage against. if you want to use 20/20 armor you need a tele charges amu, else go with eni so java can cs right after sorc staticed

Does sorc need to be blizz? Also does it need 200 fcr or just 105?

Didn't know if it needed to pre-cast blizz prior to wave in order to prevent wave 3 from spawning hydras.

I was planning on using static.

Would prefer to just static only as that gives me more options.

Ideally want sub 2 minute games baal runs


This post was edited by MoneysHc2 on Jan 28 2021 08:17am