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Feb 3 2020 03:30am
Hi everyone,

Since this ladder started , and this mod came out, there is a char I didn't really considered, it's the druid.

As all classes, I know his caster version is the most effective :'(
But I am not interested.

How about the true fighters version ? Melee , wolf or bear ?

Can it performs well in hell ? Can it run every zone of the game considering good gear is equipped ? Not utrist, I have my unkillable frenzy barb for this already.

Take the wolf , is it a one button play wonder like the lammerdin or you can do things like, let's say, a zerk barb ( different cries depending on situation, using concentration or zerk , leap.. etc)

If yes, would grief + storm be as good as ribcracker upped ?

Thanks a lot for the answers, please no theory but answers of ppl who actually played the class, and last thing, I play HC ladder only.

This post was edited by delikana on Feb 3 2020 03:35am
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Feb 3 2020 04:48am
Both Wolf and Bear are actually fun to play.
Wolf would be a safer choice and the one that would clear areas quicker.
Bear would be a funnier choice that you will hardly get bored of.
Since you're ladder (and not singleplayer), if you play solo in private games you can probably clean hell act5 half naked.


Both use more than 1 skill (compared to hdin), and therefore you can choose more ways of killing monsters.
You have single target attacks, aoe attacks, you wines can provide you with either life regen, mana regen or extra poison damage. your spirits can provide you with either extra life or extra damage.
there's a lot of possibilities and shapeshifter is fun char to play :)

Wolf only gets ias from weapon, unlike zealer for example.
You can go:
Phase Blade Grief + Stormshield to hit 5 frames Fury

For 2 handed either upped ribby or a Tombreaver (eth if you can get it) with ZOD + x2 15ias/adds jewels. 15/15 is nice for some extra resi
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Feb 3 2020 04:58am
werebear:
*Fireclaw
*Fireclaw/Summons
*Fireclaw/Maul
*Maul
*=shockwave

werewolf:
*Fury
*Fury/Rabies
*Rabies/Summons
*Rabies
*Rabies/Fireclaw
*=feral rage

another non-ele build worth mentioning is The Hunter: Summons + Bow, an elemental but non-op variant being The Shaman: Summons + fire elements.


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Feb 3 2020 05:01am
Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 3 2020 10:58am)
werebear:
*Fireclaw
*Fireclaw/Summons
*Fireclaw/Maul
*Maul
*=shockwave

werewolf:
*Fury
*Fury/Rabies
*Rabies/Summons
*Rabies
*Rabies/Fireclaw
*=feral rage

another non-ele build worth mentioning is The Hunter: Summons + Bow, an elemental but non-op variant being The Shaman: Summons + fire elements.


Have you ever tried Hunter?
Sounds disgustingly bad :D
What weapon choice would be the best anyway lol
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Feb 3 2020 05:04am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 3 Feb 2020 04:01)
Have you ever tried Hunter?
Sounds disgustingly bad :D
What weapon choice would be the best anyway lol


witchwild --> upgraded witchwild or faith

Tried it, very difficult, but possible lol. Damage is very nice if you can focus it onto one target. It's mediocre at best vs large groups but serviceable once you have faith + reaper's toll lol. The kind of build that can just barely scrape you to an acceptable killing speed through eye-bleed-inducing grinding. It's great fun! Coolest build out there lol. I personally died in nm a5 haha embarrassing. (but made one on bnet for fun)

e/ upgraded witchwild will be your endgame without LRW ofc

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Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 3 2020 11:04am)
witchwild --> upgraded witchwild --> faith

Tried it, very difficult, but possible lol. Damage is very nice if you can focus it onto one target. It's mediocre at best vs large groups but serviceable once you have faith + reaper's toll lol. The kind of build that can just barely scrape you to an acceptable killing speed through eye-bleed-inducing grinding. It's great fun! Coolest build out there lol. I personally died in nm a5 haha embarrassing.

That sounds awful haha
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Feb 3 2020 05:10am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 3 Feb 2020 04:08)
That sounds awful haha


haha but imagine beating hell with a pack of dogs and a blue bow with your auburn ponytail flowing in the wind
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haha but imagine beating hell with a pack of dogs and a blue bow with your auburn ponytail flowing in the wind


Gotta admit, not my proudest fap, but far from worst one.

I guess Treachery or Forti would be really good end game armors, but Tyraels with that juicy blue style would be marriage material
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Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 3 Feb 2020 04:13)
Gotta admit, not my proudest fap, but far from worst one.

I guess Treachery or Forti would be really good end game armors, but Tyraels with that juicy blue style would be marriage material


I'm tempted to make a vanilla one, but it's hard to commit to something when you are so certain you will die before a2 hell lol, makes it hard to care. holy shock zealer prob has a better shot
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Feb 3 2020 05:16am
Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 3 2020 11:14am)
I'm tempted to make a vanilla one, but it's hard to commit to something when you are so certain you will die before a2 hell lol, makes it hard to care. holy shock zealer prob has a better shot


tbh I managed to get to a3 hell with holy shock zealer and it wasnt too bad.
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