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May 17 2019 10:56pm
After the untimely, and unexpected, demise of Raniero Fasani, Cardinal Peter Damian will assume the flagellants' quest to rid the world and themselves of evil: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81019871&f=161

Rules
  • HC - P8 all times except Countess re-runs
  • Ladder rune words via txt file
  • S/E of course allowed


Skills
  • 20 - Sacrifice (first 20 here)
  • 20 - Fanaticism
  • 20 - Redemption
  • 20 - Holy Shield
  • <rest> - Vengeance (unleachable monsters)


I just finished off Blood Raven. Will post updates probably by the end of the weekend if I can find time to play through Act 1. I will be farming for Death Set from Raka, Treehead, and Andy this time. (I learned my lesson from last climb.)

This post was edited by psw on May 17 2019 10:56pm
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May 18 2019 01:12am
Good luck with this one. Posted in your previous thread.
Below are just my thoughts, you have experience to know what helps or doesn't.. or maybe you have not considered them viable.

SKILLS:
Basically, do you need to max Fanaticism / Redemption / Holy Shield?
Could you opt to use an Aura that adds elemental damage like Holy Freeze or Holy Shock in conjunction of using Sacrifice as your attack?
... Note: questions above may help with safety, kill-speed and as you know you can respec when you are in Hell Difficulty.

ITEMS:
Hopefully you find these items early on.
Angelic Ring (x2 is better = 40 life / 16 life replenish)
Angelic Amulet is normally harder to find, but definitely great addition with 1 or both rings. Combination, additional 75 life / Attack rating.
Hsaru's Belt + Boots... great 2 piece combo here, again more Attack rating and some fire res.
Sigons Glove + Helm... IAS and Life Leech (only thing I do not like... strength req... so hopefully you find some +3 Strength Large charms)
Cathan Rings... probably easier to find than angelics... they do the trick also.
Bonus Item: Angelic armor with rings/ammy... +1 skill / 50% mf per ring.
Bonus Item: Hsaru Shield with Belt / Boots... Light res added strength and other mods.
Bonus Item: Angelic Sword... the full set gives you a lot of things that is needed.
... Note: the likely hood of you finding Full Angelic / Hsarus set early is pretty slim, but obtaining them can get you to Hell difficulty... of course if you get Aldurs weapon, you will downgrade Angelic, but that is still good. You will still benefit with Sig Helm / Gloves.

As you know already, crushing blow / open wounds are needed for your build. Options available. Malice (personally better early on for Act2 merc) / Black / Goblin Toe / Duress / Gore Riders to name the most common ones... even if you don't have massive damage / life leech etc... OW / CB is unbelievably better when using the Sacrifice skill.

Don't take my post as a negative thing, just think of them options that MAY be viable.

Good luck in your run.
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May 18 2019 06:04am
I like your list above, and I definitely look for those things in the early game. The one I would add is full Cleg's set. It gives something like 35 CB and a lot of physical damage.

The reason that I went with Fanaticism instead of one of the elemental skills is because of the IAS and damage boost. (It also fits the character.) Since Sacrifice is a single attack, the IAS becomes more important for me to hit BPs. I need to get as many swings per second in to be able to take advantage of the massive amount of damage a full maxed and synergized (Redemption) Sacrifice can do.

I have considered going Concentration instead of Fanaticism, but it gives less +% damage and IAS > the 20% uninterrupted.
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May 18 2019 06:08am
AS izParagonzi mentioned the elemental side of the attack (holy freeze/shock) a big question popped in my head..

Does sacrifice only return the physical side or all types of damage?

And the negative in return would be the Less amount of leech applied from elemental only attacks....

Holy shock can get you to hell mode alone on the damage it adds, then repec to fanat when comfortable


Good Luck with Part 2 :bouncy:
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May 18 2019 08:26pm
Quote (psw @ May 19 2019 01:04am)
I like your list above, and I definitely look for those things in the early game. The one I would add is full Cleg's set. It gives something like 35 CB and a lot of physical damage.

The reason that I went with Fanaticism instead of one of the elemental skills is because of the IAS and damage boost. (It also fits the character.) Since Sacrifice is a single attack, the IAS becomes more important for me to hit BPs. I need to get as many swings per second in to be able to take advantage of the massive amount of damage a full maxed and synergized (Redemption) Sacrifice can do.

I have considered going Concentration instead of Fanaticism, but it gives less +% damage and IAS > the 20% uninterrupted.


I have no experience with a Sacrifice build, but, I have experience of staying alive... :rofl: Do I have this correct;
1. The MORE damage you deliver (physical), the return damage is also HIGHER?
2. You counter #1 by having a HIGH % of Life Leech?
3. Elemental Damage does NOT contribute to the RETURN damage from Sacrifice skill?
4. Physical Damage Reduction: Does this REDUCE returned damage? My understanding is that you receive the FULL % return damage and PDR doesn't help.

I may have to reword #4, as I stated, I know NOTHING about Sacrifice. If you Deal 10,000 physical damage using sacrifice and the returned damage % is 10, then you will take 1,000 damage regardless of defense and modifiers. NOTE: if this is correct, you might have to find a Medium.

Only the Useful Prefixes / Suffixes Listed Below Wearing Full Angelic (2x Ring) + Hsarus + Sigon Helm + Gloves :

+12 Life Regen / +155 Life / +95 AR / + (30 Per Clvl) AR / 140% MF
+1 Skills / CBF / 100% Fire Res / +25% Poison Res / 45% Cold Res / +50% Light Res
+75% Enhanced Damage / 60% IAS (-10 Wpn Base Speed)
+10 Dex / +20 Str / +5 Damage Reduction / 20% FRW / +5 Max Damage / 10% Life Steal

Sent you a PM with the Breakdown of these sets (Partial / Full). Hope this helps you out.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 18 2019 08:32pm
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May 18 2019 08:30pm
I have read different things about Sacrifice, but the Basin does say that PDR does not reduce the damage to self. So you may be correct.
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May 19 2019 08:49am
Quote (izParagonzi @ May 18 2019 09:26pm)
4. Physical Damage Reduction: Does this REDUCE returned damage? My understanding is that you receive the FULL % return damage and PDR doesn't help.


I responded to this above, but it's a good starter for this point as well. Right now, we've only be discussing sets, but there are two rune words that are easily made by re-running Countess that almost completely negate the 8% damage from Sacrifice.

Kings Grace (Swords/Scepters) - Amn + Ral + Thul - 7% LL, 100% ED, 100% ED to Demons
Strength (Melee) - Amn + Tir - 7% LL, 25% CB, 33% ED

My goal is to shop a 2 and 3os Long Sword or a 2os Flail in Act 2. Grab the cube. And go back and make both. I should have strategized this plan on the first character.

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May 19 2019 10:12am
Gl.. shouldn't life tap make this easy though?
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May 19 2019 12:35pm
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Gl.. shouldn't life tap make this easy though?


Life tap works great for monsters that you can leach from. It doesn't help against any of the negative life force monsters.
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May 19 2019 11:04pm
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Life tap works great for monsters that you can leach from. It doesn't help against any of the negative life force monsters.


You might want to do some research on that... if they are immune to physical damage, you won't get any life back.
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