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Feb 10 2019 11:04am
Hi there. I like to roll in 8 player games (on uswest ladder, not singleplayer) to up loot chances. Only problem is monsters are buff and I have a problem clearing worlstone. For a while I was using a WW barb but phased it out. Now I use a necromancer with corpse explosion and clay golem (bone spirit, etc) but is slower than barb (but does not get close to death as much)

Playing the necro is nice and all but it's a bit slow for my taste.

I am now considering swapping to a hammerdin to maybe clear worldstone faster. What do you guys think? It was nice because before I could hit worldstone 1-3 and river of flame but with my necro I really only can do worldstone 1-3 (only part of level 3 at most)

Maybe I can improve my necro setup and clear areas faster? Or should I just swap to a hammerdin (thinking 125 fcr)

Heres my necro layout:

shako, nigma, hoto, homono, 2 soj, arach, upgraded hot spurs and magefist. 6 psn skillers, 1 torch, 1 anni, light res charms (and max res)
1 pt in all golems except fire and in resist and mastery.

Max teeth, corpse explosion, bone spear, bone spirit almost maxed bonewall.

amplify, decrepify, etc. I mean seems like a solid setup it's just slow. Would poison do better for worldstone? Really open to hear what you guys think. Right now a hammerdin seems most viable
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Feb 10 2019 11:12am
no matter what you do hdin will be faster than nec in those areas in p8
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Feb 10 2019 11:32am
Quote (BMar5452 @ Feb 10 2019 09:12am)
no matter what you do hdin will be faster than nec in those areas in p8


I figured so. My question is, if I go hammerdin for worldstone, am I better off going max block or should I just worry about 125 FCR (using perhaps a pally spirit shield) A max bo barb is on the team but I still want to avoid getting smacked and losing too much hp to recover from.

Either way sounds like I may switch to a hammerdin for worldstone
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Feb 10 2019 11:38am
Quote (spiritualwar @ Feb 10 2019 10:32am)
I figured so. My question is, if I go hammerdin for worldstone, am I better off going max block or should I just worry about 125 FCR (using perhaps a pally spirit shield) A max bo barb is on the team but I still want to avoid getting smacked and losing too much hp to recover from.

Either way sounds like I may switch to a hammerdin for worldstone


maxblock ez
make sure you have holy shield on when putting points into dex (put skill points before stat points)
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Feb 10 2019 11:56am
I tried worlstone 1-3 with my pala. Used a 125 fcr setup. Caped res, fire res capped at 90, 12k dmg, 3.6k life, 9k def, goly freeze merc with reapers. (My Chaos Setup)
Is certainly doable, but didnt feel comfortable. Lots of stuff that really hurts, specially when AMPed. Lots of near deathes, merc dies quite often, etc. I play hc so i didnt really like it.

I currently use a javazon. Dont have infy available so i usually do lvl 3 only. Even without infy her kill speed is insane. If you use infy and lots of -light res you should be able to dominate lvl 1-3.

Went pure vita with the java, using spirit and enigma focusing on damage . Everything dies within 1-3 LFs, bosses go down wirh 1-2 CS on players 7.
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Quote (b0b0b0 @ Feb 10 2019 09:56am)
I tried worlstone 1-3 with my pala. Used a 125 fcr setup. Caped res, fire res capped at 90, 12k dmg, 3.6k life, 9k def, goly freeze merc with reapers. (My Chaos Setup)
Is certainly doable, but didnt feel comfortable. Lots of stuff that really hurts, specially when AMPed. Lots of near deathes, merc dies quite often, etc. I play hc so i didnt really like it.

I currently use a javazon. Dont have infy available so i usually do lvl 3 only. Even without infy her kill speed is insane. If you use infy and lots of -light res you should be able to dominate lvl 1-3.

Went pure vita with the java, using spirit and enigma focusing on damage . Everything dies within 1-3 LFs, bosses go down wirh 1-2 CS on players 7.


Thanks for the first hand experience. Appreciate.

Seems I may do javazon. I have heard good things and also have yet to make a good amazon so this sounds more viable. I also would have a giant thresher infinity left over from my necro if I swapped to javazon so there's my infinity. Seems this is more doable thanks man. Do you mind sharing your skills, stats, and gear with me? I have never made a end game javazon so not sure what to strive for here (especially if I will be focusing worldstone 1-3) I already have a MP enigma, and a giant thresher infinity ready to go just need to rush and leech and then get setup going.

Any pointers for gear/stats/build would be highly appreciated.

This post was edited by spiritualwar on Feb 10 2019 12:01pm
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Feb 10 2019 01:34pm
Skills: 1 pt in critical strike, penetrate and pierce, max lighting fury and charged strike and all the synergies.

Stats: 156 str (to use spirit shield), 109 dex (to use titans), rest into vita

Gear: griffons (15ias/15 all res jewel or 15 ias only), enigma, spirit monarch, titans, 3/20 gloves or 2/20 rares, razortail belt, aldur boots, ravenfrost, bk ring, higlord or catseye amu.

Inv: java skillers, res gcs/scs, torch + anni.

Some important notes: Make sure to reach the 52% ias bp. Spirit needs at least 32% fcr.
I use an insight merc, because i lag infy atm. With infy you will run into mana issues. Possible solutions are silk weave boots, soj instead of bk ring, rare ml + maek ring instead of bk.
Lvl 1 has lots of lightning monsters so swapping bk for a whisp ring or swapping razor tail for tg might be an option for big survival boost. I recommend the ring option, razortail is to powerful to swap it.
If you have a bo barb in your runs you have a lot of options for the second weapon slot: Phoenix shield for huge mana gain, wizzy + spirit for faster tele, lower res charges wand for even bigger dmg.

Cold and poison res arent important, 0 is fine. Light should be maxed, i recommend 60+ fire res.

This post was edited by b0b0b0 on Feb 10 2019 01:36pm
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Quote (b0b0b0 @ Feb 10 2019 11:34am)
Skills: 1 pt in critical strike, penetrate and pierce, max lighting fury and charged strike and all the synergies.

Stats: 156 str (to use spirit shield), 109 dex (to use titans), rest into vita

Gear: griffons (15ias/15 all res jewel or 15 ias only), enigma, spirit monarch, titans, 3/20 gloves or 2/20 rares, razortail belt, aldur boots, ravenfrost, bk ring, higlord or catseye amu.

Inv: java skillers, res gcs/scs, torch + anni.

Some important notes: Make sure to reach the 52% ias bp. Spirit needs at least 32% fcr.
I use an insight merc, because i lag infy atm. With infy you will run into mana issues. Possible solutions are silk weave boots, soj instead of bk ring, rare ml + maek ring instead of bk.
Lvl 1 has lots of lightning monsters so swapping bk for a whisp ring or swapping razor tail for tg might be an option for big survival boost. I recommend the ring option, razortail is to powerful to swap it.
If you have a bo barb in your runs you have a lot of options for the second weapon slot: Phoenix shield for huge mana gain, wizzy + spirit for faster tele, lower res charges wand for even bigger dmg.

Cold and poison res arent important, 0 is fine. Light should be maxed, i recommend 60+ fire res.


Thank you this is a huge help. I got my zon to hell right now, now just to level and work on getting this gear. For ring options it seems best bet would be max sorb whisp ring and then maybe a good mana leech ring to make up for lack of insight? Otherwise seems pretty straightforward, looking forward to trying this.
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Feb 10 2019 01:50pm
Why do you farm these area over easier ones with same ilvl?
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Quote (Hyperdimension @ Feb 10 2019 11:50am)
Why do you farm these area over easier ones with same ilvl?


Everyone clears certain areas and I like the challenge. Worldstone is the only area that has given me problems in P8 and I am determined to clear it consistently without problems :wacko: So far my WW barb, sorcs, necro, and everything else has fallen short. Hoping the zon can do it
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