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Nov 15 2018 12:11pm
A couple come to mind - skills that exist but I have never seen really used

Sacrifice pally
Leap attack barb
Golem necro

What are your thoughts/experiences with underutilized builds?
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Nov 15 2018 12:16pm
Tried sacrifice paladin and its a pain
You r trying to get more damage but the more damage you deal you hurt yourself more
Would need to find a perfect combination of high health and high damage

Did not enjoy it one bit

Havent tried the other builds you mentioned but I doubt it would work out well
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Nov 15 2018 12:29pm
golem nec isn't that bad since you have access to all the curses. it's just slow.

leap attack barb is fucking hard and would not recommend. 80% of your attack you are spending in the air or hitting very, very slowly for not very much damage. and super boring
shiver armor sorc (only source of dmg w/b armor+TS+merc)
blaze+nova/frost nova sorc
foh pally
reaper nec
kept hearing pika ( :lol: )cry about how bad blade fury sin was.

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Nov 15 2018 12:36pm
nah you can do blade fury sin - try blade sentinel :p

nova/frost nova isnt that hard either - played a frost nova through hc self found. You just need patience.

maybe something like pure inferno or blaze sorc (merc for immunes)

some suggestion:

fend/jab ama
summon dudu



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Nov 15 2018 12:38pm
there is no contest imo, Holy Bolt pally.

if we're just counting skills that can damage. obviously a grim ward barb isn't going to work.

arguably a conversion pally would take forever, but my guess is it would beat out holy bolt. that would take for fucking ever. even a blaze sorc would be faster
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Nov 15 2018 01:08pm
First of all, define 'hardest'. A big factor is the allowance of mercenary use.

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 15 2018 04:38pm)
there is no contest imo, Holy Bolt pally.

if we're just counting skills that can damage. obviously a grim ward barb isn't going to work.

arguably a conversion pally would take forever, but my guess is it would beat out holy bolt. that would take for fucking ever. even a blaze sorc would be faster

Impossible, Holy Bolt can't kill anything other than undead monsters. If you're going to say the merc can handle the other monsters, I can think of a number of builds slower than a merc only Paladin supplying Fanaticism aura, namely a passive merc only walk with any other class than a Necro.

Quote (Aaronoob @ Nov 15 2018 04:11pm)
A couple come to mind - skills that exist but I have never seen really used

Sacrifice pally
Leap attack barb
Golem necro

What are your thoughts/experiences with underutilized builds?

'Golem only' would be ridiculous, there would be certain situations where it wouldn't be able to beat damage regeneration. Again if you're allowing a merc, with a Necro supplying Amplify Damage, then it is definitely possible but slow.

I don't think anybody has ever done an Arctic Blast walk-through. You would need a secondary skill, or a merc. Nobody has ever done a Twister walk either, that would be painful.

Basically any low damage, single target attack skill. But nothing is necessarily 'hard', this game is very easy, it's just a matter of time consumption. This entire game revolves around speed, that's what Diablo II is, it's easy to mistake 'difficulty' or 'skill' with speed.

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someone did an entirely merc support holy bolt walk, ill see if i can find it. but they didnt allow offensive booster auras. so they used medi, prayer, etc. i think tho, by the end, it was taking so long they respec'd or refocussed to a staff hammer thrower, again no offensive auras, so they had no block and low dmg hammers to finish hell.

merc-golem-curse necro someone did in the pvm section as well if i can find it.

arctic freeze, inferno, twister would indeed be slow as balls. even frost nova, unless the damage scales better than im thinking.

He didn't finish it, he ran out of time/patience (maybe some people consider that the difficult part?), it can be seen here: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72298208&f=161

Medic builds are viable, Uber Tristram can be done with that build https://youtu.be/f5wMEQLprEg,, it isn't hard or requires more skill/knowledge, it's just more time consuming.

Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 15 2018 05:20pm)
arctic freeze, inferno, twister would indeed be slow as balls. even frost nova, unless the damage scales better than im thinking.

It really doesn't

This post was edited by Marieusz on Nov 15 2018 01:33pm
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Impossible, Holy Bolt can't kill anything other than undead monsters. If you're going to say the merc can handle the other monsters, I can think of a number of builds slower than a merc only Paladin supplying Fanaticism aura.


'Golem only' would be ridiculous, there would be certain situations where it wouldn't be able to beat damage regeneration. Again if you're allowing a merc, with a Necro supplying Amplify Damage, then it is definitely possible but slow.

I don't think anybody has ever done an Arctic Blast walk-through. You would need a secondary skill, or a merc. Nobody has ever done a Twister walk either, that would be painful.

Basically any low damage, single target attack skill. But nothing is necessarily 'hard', this game is very easy, it's just a matter of time consumption.


someone did an entirely merc support holy bolt walk, ill see if i can find it. but they didnt allow offensive booster auras. so they used medi, prayer, etc. i think tho, by the end, it was taking so long they respec'd or refocussed to a staff hammer thrower, again no offensive auras, so they had no block and low dmg hammers to finish hell.

merc-golem-curse necro someone did in the pvm section as well if i can find it.

arctic freeze, inferno, twister would indeed be slow as balls. even frost nova, unless the damage scales better than im thinking.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 15 2018 01:21pm
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Nov 15 2018 04:32pm
Quote (Aaronoob @ Nov 15 2018 02:11pm)
A couple come to mind - skills that exist but I have never seen really used

Sacrifice pally
Leap attack barb
Golem necro

What are your thoughts/experiences with underutilized builds?


I tried Golem Necro (including my own melee and merc) Still a little rough but probably possible if u have patience...
I was thinking of a Dragon with Frozen Balls (Sorc) Frozen orb / Inferno
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hammerdin without shako
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Throw barb
Smite pally
Psn dagger necro
Fire or Psn zon
Kicksin
Summon Druid
Melee enchantress
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