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Sep 23 2018 10:24pm
I'm wondering something about my stats points.

I just reached hell with my lovely javazon and i'm currently using Max block but i wonder if it's worth it?!

To get it, i pretty much waste 125 points into dex.
But i felt like even tho it's a big amount of life that i lose, i don't get hit much and if i had some life/mana leech, i could take benefit from the dex to hit more often and leech. (not the case at the moment tho... no LL or ML)


What do you guys think? Vita route or Max block for Valkyrja? :huh:


This post was edited by 2_shy on Sep 23 2018 10:24pm
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Sep 23 2018 11:58pm
I would stay MB. Also get some dr elsewhere untill u find Storm
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Sep 24 2018 12:24am
Quote (Fyla @ Sep 24 2018 01:58am)
I would stay MB. Also get some dr elsewhere untill u find Storm


Yea! using a Rockstopper at the moment and i really hope to find String of Ears from either Pits or Andariel :unsure:
any1 else opinions on this...?

Another question: as i asked on my WT though! For skills, i'm about to take out Peace armor and i'll have to truly put some skills into Valk... do i max that skill for an efficient valkyrie?

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Sep 24 2018 12:58am
All depends on what you want.

My own amazon have about 50% block, due to thunderstroke needing quite some dex anyway (151). She have some LL with a bk, which helps.

Don't forget that allot of typical amazon items give a high amount of +dex.

A raven gives a maximum of 20 dex. (you can use 2)
A cat's eye (which i see commonly used) gives +25 dex + 20 ias
Titans revenge gives +20 dex (but also needs 109 dex to use)

I see here 20+20+25+20 = 85 added dex.

You need 109 dex for your titans (asuming you want to use one). 109-20-20-25 = 44 points that need to be stat in it, taken in account you have an random torch, giving 14 points, it dropts to 30. Minus the 25 dex you start with on an ama, you have 5 points you need to spend in dex to wear titans. Titans add 20 dex, giving you a total of 139 dex, for spending 5 points.

If you dont want to use cat's eye, but highlords, you can think about using waterwalk's as an addition. Which adds +15 dex. In that case, it'll cost (5+25-15=) 15 instead of 5 points in dex you need to add.

Every point added in dex, cost you 3 hp, if you dont have any items adding life. So, 15 dex would cost you (15*3=)45 life. However, if your chances of block are high, you need less of it too.

Its all about balancing out, my old (nearly perfect) ama has:
60 ias = faster attacks = more dmg.
41 fhr = faster recovery = saver
43 dr = taking less dmg
10 ll = recovering from damage more fast
50% block = quite enough on an ama
75-75-85-75 res = what matters allot on hell, you cant block / dr elemetal dmg
11k charged strike, 12 bolts
4.4k fury, 51 bolts

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Sep 24 2018 01:01am
I''d suggest maxing Valk. Investing everything in CS/LF synergies will only have non-LI mobs drop dead 1-2 seconds faster than without fully synergising those 2 skills. On the other hand, maxing Valk will give you a powerful tank that will skyrocket your crowd control and absorb dmg for your merc.

As for MB, it depends on the shield. If your Rhyme is in a tower shield it's worth it and it will only get better as soon as you get SS. Also you are spending lots of pts in dex for equipping Titans which also gives 20 dex + 15 dex from razortail (wont be hard to find) and another 15-20 dex from raven frost (you'll get that eventually) gives you a nice kickstart.
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Sep 24 2018 01:11am
Quote (FreeUsername @ Sep 24 2018 02:58am)
All depends on what you want.
My own amazon have about...
...Don't forget that allot of typical amazon items give a high amount of +dex....


True that! I'm just freakin poorly equipped at the moment and i don't wanna RiP so it's kind of a question about making the choice now with the actual crappy gear i use! haha
At every level up, i need to waste another 2 dex to keep my Max Block rate... So right now i have approximately 120 points in dexterity.

I feel like that max block is still saving my butt at the moment since i'm running through the countess tower and those archer sometimes Amp me and tear me down but i have the time to see it and quit before the worst happened.


Quote (Cr_VI @ Sep 24 2018 03:01am)
I''d suggest maxing Valk. Investing everything in CS/LF synergies will only have non-LI mobs drop dead 1-2 seconds faster than without fully synergising those 2 skills. On the other hand, maxing Valk will give you a powerful tank that will skyrocket your crowd control and absorb dmg for your merc. As for MB, it depends on the shield. If your Rhyme is in a tower shield it's worth it and it will only get better as soon as you get SS. Also you are spending lots of pts in dex for equipping Titans which also gives 20 dex + 15 dex from razortail (wont be hard to find) and another 15-20 dex from raven frost (you'll get that eventually) gives you a nice kickstart.


Totally make sens and ever since i got into Hell, my merc is dying so quick... A badass Valk tank will be just perfect. Thanks ^_^

This post was edited by 2_shy on Sep 24 2018 01:12am
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Sep 24 2018 01:47am
Quote (2_shy @ 24 Sep 2018 09:11)
Totally make sens and ever since i got into Hell, my merc is dying so quick... A badass Valk tank will be just perfect. Thanks ^_^



Adding a valk means skilling dodge / avoid / evade.. Which slow down your char and make you "trapped" and accually kill you. On top of that, with those skills you cant max out your skill tree on javelins anyway. Costing you overall dmg.
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Sep 24 2018 03:00am
Quote (2_shy @ Sep 24 2018 08:24am)
Yea! using a Rockstopper at the moment and i really hope to find String of Ears from either Pits or Andariel :unsure:
any1 else opinions on this...?

Another question: as i asked on my WT though! For skills, i'm about to take out Peace armor and i'll have to truly put some skills into Valk... do i max that skill for an efficient valkyrie?


I always max valk with shitty EQ. You want max block as well, but like someone said you get alot of dex from java items. Razortail>
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Sep 24 2018 03:28am
Quote (FreeUsername @ Sep 24 2018 09:47am)
Adding a valk means skilling dodge / avoid / evade.. Which slow down your char and make you "trapped" and accually kill you. On top of that, with those skills you cant max out your skill tree on javelins anyway. Costing you overall dmg.


In /p8 HC it will do more good than harm. CS/LF are interruptible attacks which is much more noticeable than the occasional D/A/E animation. D/A/E becomes a problem when using sequence attacks such as jab or fend and even when jabbing you can sit and jab behind your merc/valk without taking hits.
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Sep 24 2018 03:40am
Quote (Cr_VI @ Sep 24 2018 11:28am)
In /p8 HC it will do more good than harm. CS/LF are interruptible attacks which is much more noticeable than the occasional D/A/E animation. D/A/E becomes a problem when using sequence attacks such as jab or fend and even when jabbing you can sit and jab behind your merc/valk without taking hits.


I agree played with D/A/E to lvl 97 /p8 hc. I never was close to ripping cause of D/A/E lock.
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