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Dec 9 2018 01:42pm
Dude that mat bow!!! That’s your end game bow if you get runes for faith or ice. Make a harmony in the meantime and get to LK for those tunes!

Also peace is one of the best options for armor on this build. You get the +2 Skills and also a lvl 15 valk for the cost of 1 skill point. Since you need all the skills you can get going hybrid build it makes it so you can actually have a beefy valk.
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Dec 9 2018 02:10pm
Quote (Airwaves @ Dec 9 2018 10:48am)
Why Hydra/gmb? FA is elemental so wouldn't you want a fast ias bp?

Blade bows drop from nm wsk 2-3 like candy.


current bow:


was thinking maybe making something like this:


seems like possibility of +100 max vs my current, what do you think?
I have 1 pt in FA, 10 in multi 10 in strafe
currently 65%ias (treach + Loh)

Quote (Flame-Masta @ Dec 9 2018 01:42pm)
Dude that mat bow!!! That’s your end game bow if you get runes for faith or ice. Make a harmony in the meantime and get to LK for those tunes!

Also peace is one of the best options for armor on this build. You get the +2 Skills and also a lvl 15 valk for the cost of 1 skill point. Since you need all the skills you can get going hybrid build it makes it so you can actually have a beefy valk.


tossed it :huh:
was planning GMB for damage
also, didn't have the runes for another harmony and damage would not have been much better (maybe worse, pending roll) than current

thanks for the feedback, keep it coming-->clearly i need it!

This post was edited by Tkamp on Dec 9 2018 02:12pm
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Dec 9 2018 02:40pm
so it got 3os, do i roll it?


realized i had 3 fals and probably no need for fals. founded a flawed ruby on the way to countess


very generous =)


guess i'll start nabbing more harmony runes too
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Quote (Tkamp @ Dec 9 2018 02:10pm)
current bow:
https://i.imgur.com/qs9Q9uG.jpg

was thinking maybe making something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/voREmei.jpg

seems like possibility of +100 max vs my current, what do you think?
I have 1 pt in FA, 10 in multi 10 in strafe
currently 65%ias (treach + Loh)



tossed it :huh:
was planning GMB for damage
also, didn't have the runes for another harmony and damage would not have been much better (maybe worse, pending roll) than current

thanks for the feedback, keep it coming-->clearly i need it!


well

hydra is only 8 avg damage ahead of blade bow

but it's also 10 base speed vs -10


so blade/matri bow is:

-8 avg damage
9fpa @ 65% ias
5/3/3/3/7 strafe
(also just on paper it's got double the minimum damage which would be more consistent without high crit/ds)


and hydra/gmb is:
+8 avg damage
10fpa @65%ias
5/3/3/3/8 strafe


Average physical damage comes into play with strafe but again, it's an entire frame faster to stick to blade/matri/-10 wsm. Which should arguably outclass the hydra/gmb.

But then again, style points. And gmb can roll +skills.

Up to you but I figured I'd throw in my experience. Really nice wt. :)

This post was edited by Airwaves on Dec 9 2018 03:52pm
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Thought you had more points into Frozen Arrow. Your physical damage must be pretty low with your bow...Maxing Frozen Arrow until you get a real bow may help a lot with kill speed.

Just warning you getting a 4 soc GMB with +Skills could take ages.
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Quote (Airwaves @ Dec 9 2018 03:44pm)
well

hydra is only 8 avg damage ahead of blade bow

but it's also 10 base speed vs -10


so blade/matri bow is:

-8 avg damage
9fpa @ 65% ias
5/3/3/3/7 strafe
(also just on paper it's got double the minimum damage which would be more consistent without high crit/ds)


and hydra/gmb is:
+8 avg damage
10fpa @65%ias
5/3/3/3/8 strafe


Average physical damage comes into play with strafe but again, it's an entire frame faster to stick to blade/matri/-10 wsm. Which should arguably outclass the hydra/gmb.

But then again, style points. And gmb can roll +skills.

Up to you but I figured I'd throw in my experience. Really nice wt. :)


:) this type of feedback is incredibly helpful, clear, and welcome. thank you!
now i have 65ias, however, long term goal would be faith
do you still think matri bow given fanat?

also stay safe in your walk and finish strong!

Quote (Flame-Masta @ Dec 10 2018 07:13am)
Thought you had more points into Frozen Arrow. Your physical damage must be pretty low with your bow...Maxing Frozen Arrow until you get a real bow may help a lot with kill speed.

Just warning you getting a 4 soc GMB with +Skills could take ages.


1pt FA, not an ice maiden here just crowd contol. Kill speed is decent enough, but i agree could use work. That is why i'm interested in the Hydra bow in the short term for higher damage output. altho given airwaves feedback, i'm not sure if my dps is actually increase.
thanks for the warning

cubed this first try :santa:


bad roll but ok for me!
not enough str yet but i am close


this will help


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Dec 10 2018 07:55pm
found runes


also yes!


solid roll B)

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found a better looking angelics
using dual raven + saracens again tho to get str


no need


keeper

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Dec 10 2018 07:58pm
first PB was 5os


ko


ko
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Dec 10 2018 08:03pm
YOU SHALL NOT PASS
there was a herd of them but forgot to screen before i started to heave spears
i'll do better


damage with blade bow:


damage with hydra bow:


so there is the difference, what do you guys think?
i'm trying hydra in pits now and it definitely hits harder but is slower.
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