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I've only ever found one, dropped from hell summoner.
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May 5 2015 10:18pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 28 2015 01:57pm)
Finding a 400+ ed eth rare with either rep or in phase blade base is so exceedingly rare and so undeniably useful that it should be considered a trophy. If you found a massively rare item that has no use i would say no trophy, same for if its useful but common.


a 400ed Eth Rep weapon or pb isn't as good as grief or Ebotd as such is kinda hard to consider it a trophy. PB is also an atrocious base for a high ed weapon.
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Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ 6 May 2015 06:18)
a 400ed Eth Rep weapon or pb isn't as good as grief or Ebotd as such is kinda hard to consider it a trophy. PB is also an atrocious base for a high ed weapon.


ever played single player?
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Quote (darrajuju @ May 5 2015 09:30pm)
ever played single player?


Yes i have and that weapon isn't awful, but it isn't a trophy. Even in single player. You do realize a NON-ETH Z can have higher dmg and attack speed then that PB right. It's also garbage when compared to grief.
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Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 6 2015 05:18am)
a 400ed Eth Rep weapon or pb isn't as good as grief or Ebotd

that's irrelevant

Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 6 2015 05:49am)
You do realize a NON-ETH Z can have higher dmg and attack speed then that PB right. It's also garbage when compared to grief.

non eth Z 450ed -> 132-390 -> 261 average dmg
this pb -> 244-273 -> 258.5average dmg, and hits much faster
so it's way better than a 450%ed zerker
it's comparable in terms of damage to a 265%ed eth self zerker, and still hits faster
in sp you can definitely call that a trophy


Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 6 2015 05:49am)
It's also garbage when compared to grief.

that's still irrelevant
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Quote (lilith0 @ May 6 2015 09:53am)
non eth Z 450ed -> 132-390 -> 261 average dmg
this pb -> 244-273 -> 258.5average dmg, and hits much faster
so it's way better than a 450%ed zerker
it's comparable in terms of damage to a 265%ed eth self zerker, and still hits faster
in sp you can definitely call that a trophyt


Believe it or not 30 and 40 IAS can spawn on the same rare as 400+ED :bonk: . So its actually worse then really good non-eth zerkers like i said. This before you consider other combos like high ed cruel +Fools 2 soc 30 IAS or 380 ed 2 soc 40 ias. That are also better then said PB.

610 is the max ED for a non eth Zerker. Not that it really matters.
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Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 6 2015 10:02pm)
So its actually worse then really good non-eth zerkers like i said.

no it's not worse, it's the same as a 450%ed 40ias zerker, actually it's still better because pb is indestructible

Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 6 2015 10:02pm)
This before you consider other combos like high ed cruel +Fools 2 soc 30 IAS

in pvm, master>>>fools

Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 6 2015 10:02pm)
This before you consider other combos like high ed cruel +Fools 2 soc 30 IAS or 380 ed 2 soc 40 ias. That are also better then said PB.

You can't compare what you see in multiplayer to sp
Thousands of overpowered bots have been running h24 for years, ofc as a result you've seen some 450ed 40ias 2soc ba.
But here we're dealing with sp, just stop talking when you're so clueless

Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 6 2015 10:02pm)
610 is the max ED for a non eth Zerker. Not that it really matters.

no
max is 450ed, you can have 550ed with 2*ohm.

This post was edited by lilith0 on May 6 2015 03:33pm
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Quote (lilith0 @ May 6 2015 02:32pm)
no it's not worse, it's the same as a 450%ed 40ias zerker, actually it's still better because pb is indestructible


It's the same as a 440ish ed 30ias. Zerker has an extra 1 ranger adder and lower dex requirement which means more STR or Vita for non-max block builds. Or do you only wanna count PBs qualities as bonus. Either way your missing the point.

Quote (lilith0 @ May 6 2015 02:32pm)
in pvm, master>>>fools


Sometimes yes sometimes no.

Quote (lilith0 @ May 6 2015 02:32pm)
You can't compare what you see in multiplayer to sp


I'm not. I'm giving you hypotheticals to kinda clue you in on how shitty PBs are for anything other then Grief or LW and LW is kinda shit for nearly all builds.

Quote (lilith0 @ May 6 2015 02:32pm)
no
max is 450ed, you can have 550ed with 2*ohm.


550ed is max RARE. A non eth Zerker can be Blood craft for an extra 35-60 ed making 610ed the highest possible. Not saying one exists in SP or that it's realistic. Again not that it really matters.
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Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 7 2015 12:14am)
Sometimes yes sometimes no

gimme an example where fools is better?
except non-eth pb

Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 7 2015 12:14am)
550ed is max RARE. A non eth Zerker can be Blood craft for an extra 35-60 ed making 610ed the highest possible. Not saying one exists in SP or that it's realistic. Again not that it really matters.

ok, that's true.

but why am i arguing
it's easy, if that pb is no trophy, there should be plenty of better weapons out there in sp
show us some
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