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Jun 18 2007 12:09am
lol ur fast typer biggrin.gif
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Jun 18 2007 07:11am
good guide. i think delirium isnt that great. To be honest, since my zon has around 500dex, id rather 40/15 shako for massive life, 2 skills for the BO, and 10dr

oh yeah, and the mf is nice too!

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Quote (DespisedIcon @ Mon, Jun 18 2007, 09:11am)
good guide. i think delirium isnt that great. To be honest, since my zon has around 500dex, id rather 40/15 shako for massive life, 2 skills for the BO, and 10dr

oh yeah, and the mf is nice too!


Delirium is there for safety. Most people just starting out would rathe have a safe expierence through the game as opposed to killing things off quickly. And yea, an ist is far easier to obtain as opposed to a 40/15. While harlequin crest does provide more life boost and more MF, the delirium has it beat hands down. both have skills. Delirium offers more defense even if made in a cracked cap, which it cant be done. 3 of the 4 CtCs are imensly helpful and confuse is the biggie here. Sure it suxors when you turn into the doll, but usually when that happens the monsters are confused and attacking each other and you can wait it out right there.

THE ONLY REASON TO NOT USE DELIRIUM PVM is if you are going to use ATMA's Scarab. the confuse will overrite the amp from the amulet.
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Jun 21 2007 10:40am
Since i have gotten countless PMs about the ladder reset, i figured I would just paste my replies here.

Quote (Literaly hundereds @ Thu, Jun 21 2007, 12:19pm)
I was wondering if you think this would be a good guide to follow with ladder reset.

Or would it be better just to make an mf sorc like blizz or fireball, meteror-orb or whatever?

Also I'd like to thank you for the strafezon guide you did write I think it is very good.


My reply:

I have the same debate as you going on in my head. While i do know the zon will be safer to complete the game, she does not have teleport and is not a real good boss runner. I guess it comes down to how you want to MF once the reset takes place. Do you want to clear areas and be safe, OR do you want to run bosses and take risks?

I myself have yet to decide and with 4 days to think about it, I am not in a real rush. I may just make a blizzer to run NM meph until I get a WWS with a decent ED. Once that happens I would do the hellforge hoping for the runes needed to up the bow. Besides, while I am running NM meph, other things will drop that will be usefull to me and thus, other characters will be more readliy available.

So in the end, do you want safety (HC), or do you want a boss runner?
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Jun 24 2007 01:01am
I thought I would really challenge my zon to see what she is up to since the ladder was gonna reset. So I took my din through lillith and duriel and thought, stoopid IM next to izzy, lets see if the zon can do it.

Well, she handled Uber Izzy without a problem, the same cannot be said for her merc.



Thats when the bout had just begun. Stoopid merc wantin to die so fast.



see what i mean? lookit him die!

Near the end i put on ATMA's amulet and the amp damage worked wonders. Izzy died rather fast with amp goin on and as you can see, confuse was not cast on him. This made it easy all around. When Izzy died, I was like, "thats it? hes dead already?" In the future, I will so be using her to take down Izzy as opposed to my pally. She didnt die once in the furnace, nor did she remotely come close. Sure, merc and valk succumbed to IM, but they are replaceable.



So in the end, know that she is a totally viable and durable and do it all kind of character.
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Jun 24 2007 11:31am
10/10 guide

1/10 sig lol

Go Michigan!!
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Jun 24 2007 06:03pm
first resonable thing to do is to create classic sorc. Ama for MF is totaly gay. Personally i think this guid sucks ass and its for noobs totaly.

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Quote (SpasticInk @ Mon, Jun 25 2007, 12:03am)
first resonable thing to do is to create classic sorc. Ama for MF is totaly gay. Personally i think this guid sucks ass and its for noobs totaly.


... kids obvs ragin.

this guide is nice. i tried it out on open, it did great damage, didnt die and i was able to clear real fast! =D
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Jun 24 2007 09:46pm
Quote (SpasticInk @ Sun, Jun 24 2007, 08:03pm)
first resonable thing to do is to create classic sorc. Ama for MF is totaly gay. Personally i think this guid sucks ass and its for noobs totaly.


Hello there cartman. didnt expect anything different from you. While your opinion is that, you seem to be the only one stating that this guide is "gay". So while you question your sexuality, enjoy reading other posts.
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Jun 25 2007 01:30am
Great Guide
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