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Apr 7 2018 07:37am
Quote (Zenstrader @ Apr 7 2018 05:55am)
Grats on level, sucks about th mages

I wouldn't see a issue in attempting to find mages on meph but thats your choice. Also though choice on the life/block withwhat your goal is I think I would want the 3500/75



Agreed. Damn you, level 96! Now I gotta beat that! Lol
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Apr 7 2018 06:29pm
Quote (Zenstrader @ 7 Apr 2018 03:55)
Grats on level, sucks about th mages

I wouldn't see a issue in attempting to find mages on meph but thats your choice. Also though choice on the life/block withwhat your goal is I think I would want the 3500/75


Quote (PikaBhew @ 7 Apr 2018 06:37)
Agreed. Damn you, level 96! Now I gotta beat that! Lol



Magefist is my favourite glove for this build, but I decided not to go to meph runs to replace them for now. I really don’t want to re-roll my awesome WSK2 and WSK3 map combo until I’m 99, and my current meph and Andy maps both are awful. I’ll spend all my gold gambling light gauntlets as well as just generally hope that somedrop again from the Baal waves haha. Still, at least I only lost the magefist. If I would have somehow lost the Beast which is just right above, I would have quit haha.
You shouldn’t have a problem catching up Pika as I will be taking a little break before pushing to 97, probably a week or two before I get started, and then once I get started it’ll probably be a while before I level ^_^
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Apr 9 2018 01:57am
I thought I'd mention here that I've completed some testing at level 96, and it is still not worth doing Baal in terms of xp over time compared to just doing the minions. It's catching up though.

Right now I get 470k xp from the minions only, and the runs take between 5:30 and 6 minutes depending on how crowded the Throne Room is and if any of the waves get Holy Freeze. I get 87k xp from Baal and it takes anywhere from 1:45 (ideal) to 3 minutes (2 Baals doing lots of teleporting). This means that by doing the minions only, I am averaging between 1300-1425 xp per second while in-game. Including Baal the time variable is greater so there is a greater discrepancy, but even the best case scenario doesn't match the worst case scenario of minions only - xp ranges between 1030-1280 xp per second.

So for level 96 to 97 I will continue to do minions only (on p8). Starting from level 97 until 99, I'll do both minions + Baal on p8.

Now that my strategy is sorted, it's time to get moving!
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Quote (Belarathon @ 9 Apr 2018 00:57)
I thought I'd mention here that I've completed some testing at level 96, and it is still not worth doing Baal in terms of xp over time compared to just doing the minions. It's catching up though.

Right now I get 470k xp from the minions only, and the runs take between 5:30 and 6 minutes depending on how crowded the Throne Room is and if any of the waves get Holy Freeze. I get 87k xp from Baal and it takes anywhere from 1:45 (ideal) to 3 minutes (2 Baals doing lots of teleporting). This means that by doing the minions only, I am averaging between 1300-1425 xp per second while in-game. Including Baal the time variable is greater so there is a greater discrepancy, but even the best case scenario doesn't match the worst case scenario of minions only - xp ranges between 1030-1280 xp per second.

So for level 96 to 97 I will continue to do minions only (on p8). Starting from level 97 until 99, I'll do both minions + Baal on p8.

Now that my strategy is sorted, it's time to get moving!


Sorry for the double post of only text, I can no longer edit the previous post. But I have changed my strategy once again o.o (for the last time!)

I realized that Baal has an XP cap, and he gives the same XP on p3 as he does on p8. I get 87k XP regardless. It only takes 1 minute to kill him on P3.

Considering this, my strategy has changed to p8 minions, p3 Baal, from now until 99! I'm happy because this means better drops again and I don't have to sacrifice xp/hour for it :)

e/ the only way I can picture this strategy changing is if at level 98 it turns out to be better XP/hour just to blast through the minions on p1 and then do Baal on p3. I'll have to check that when I get to 98!

This post was edited by Belarathon on Apr 9 2018 03:15am
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Apr 9 2018 12:28pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Apr 7 2018 03:50am)
A couple questions for all those reading:

-Should I go back to Meph runs to get some Magefist? I know I said Baal runs until level 99 but I would like to be fully geared haha...

-I've been considering dropping down to 51% block when I re-stat. This would gain me about 450 life. That means I'd pretty much always have over 4k life throughout my gear and charm swaps. I don't have any survivability issues right now, and I don't think I would with the lower block either :unsure: But 4k life looks cooler than 3500 life. So should I am for 4k life/51% block or 3500 life/75% block?



Can’t some math tell you what’s better as far as life/block?
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Apr 9 2018 01:26pm
Are you trying to find 30ed Magefists? Cuz when you double up those the defense is hard to get perfect cuz the defense re-rolls with each up. :P
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Apr 9 2018 08:21pm
Quote (sir_cyclops @ 9 Apr 2018 11:28)
Can’t some math tell you what’s better as far as life/block?


I don’t think so because it all depends on what I’m facing at the time. The block would be better in some cases and the life better in other cases. It’s 24% block vs 12% life, also obviously I’d get “block-locked” 24% less but this really isn’t an issue with Shockwave. Honestly I’d just go straight for the 51% block if there wasn’t a mighted archer pack in the back of my mind. I feel like I’d have no problem with survivability either way, which is why I thought more life would just look cooler. At the end of the day, I feel like the block would be a bit safer and the life would give a little bit more dps due to being block locked less, and would be better vs casters like souls.

Quote (Revenants @ 9 Apr 2018 12:26)
Are you trying to find 30ed Magefists? Cuz when you double up those the defense is hard to get perfect cuz the defense re-rolls with each up. :P

Yes I’m aware haha and I’ll be doing probably an insane amount of hell meph runs after I hit 99 (I want eth reapers) so I’m sure I’ll find a ton of magefist. I don’t necessarily need 100% perfect in every item slot, but I’d like all my items to be 90%+ perfect. I know that’s not really possible for jalals because I socketed the first one I found which was low%... but oh well on that one haha. Now that I’m doing Baal again hopefully he will drop some soon.
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May 13 2018 10:35pm
Hello!

Just wanted to say that I'll be back at Hobbes and Tomur-Oul within the next week or so. The problem was that I changed my password while I was drinking and forgot it. Just got around to doing a password reset now. Can't wait to get back into it! I always end up missing this big, lumbering bear.
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May 13 2018 10:58pm
Quote (Belarathon @ May 13 2018 11:35pm)
Hello!

Just wanted to say that I'll be back at Hobbes and Tomur-Oul within the next week or so. The problem was that I changed my password while I was drinking and forgot it. Just got around to doing a password reset now. Can't wait to get back into it! I always end up missing this big, lumbering bear.



Get it!
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May 13 2018 11:10pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Apr 9 2018 04:08am)
Sorry for the double post of only text, I can no longer edit the previous post. But I have changed my strategy once again o.o (for the last time!)

I realized that Baal has an XP cap, and he gives the same XP on p3 as he does on p8. I get 87k XP regardless. It only takes 1 minute to kill him on P3.

Considering this, my strategy has changed to p8 minions, p3 Baal, from now until 99! I'm happy because this means better drops again and I don't have to sacrifice xp/hour for it :)

e/ the only way I can picture this strategy changing is if at level 98 it turns out to be better XP/hour just to blast through the minions on p1 and then do Baal on p3. I'll have to check that when I get to 98!


The only targets that have mlvls high enough to not get cucked by an xp penalty at clvl 98 are Nihlathak, Diablo, and Baal. Considering your builds efficiency cap I’d say for sure at 98 it’ll be better to do minions on P1. Have you tried P1 minions/P3 Baal at 96? Can’t really comment with certainty because I ran P8 Vizier/Infector at 96 but considering your build it might be better xp/hour.

This post was edited by LucAA on May 13 2018 11:11pm
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