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Feb 24 2019 02:19pm
Quote (Quorra @ Feb 24 2019 12:15pm)
I did not question the two amulets from post #35.

I questioned the two crafted items from posts #45 and #57.
Where do Required Level: 56 and 54 come from?

[The Arreat Summit web page you are referring to does not answer that question.]


I still don't understand your question, it states the formula for ilvl when it comes to crafting on the web page that I quoted.

Are you asking why crafted items can be different levels?
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I still don't understand your question, it states the formula for ilvl when it comes to crafting on the web page that I quoted.

Are you asking why crafted items can be different levels?

I am inquiring about Required Level, not Item Level.

How can Loath Chain Mesh Belt get Required Level: 56, and how can Beast Necklace Amulet get Required Level: 54?
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Feb 24 2019 02:59pm
Quote (Quorra @ Feb 24 2019 12:36pm)
I am inquiring about Required Level, not Item Level.

How can Loath Chain Mesh Belt get Required Level: 56, and how can Beast Necklace Amulet get Required Level: 54?


The item level matters because that along with prefix and suffix will make the required level. I think if you don't understand how crafting works it is best to ask blizzard for better explanation, I am not good at explaining

(1) ilvl = int(.5 * clvl) + int(.5 * ilvl)
The ilvl calculated in (1) has to undergo two checks and possible modifications. First, ilvl is capped at 99:

(2) if ilvl > 99 then ilvl = 99
Then qlvl and ilvl are compared. The higher number is used for further calculations:

(3) if qlvl > ilvl then ilvl = qlvl
The final step is to determine the affix level. If the ilvl is smaller than 99 – int(qlvl/2) then the affix level is ilvl – int(qlvl/2). Otherwise the affix level is ilvl*2 – 99:

(4) if ilvl < (99 – int(qlvl/2)= then affix level = ilvl - int(qlvl/2) else affix level = ilvl * 2 - 99.
It's also worth noting that the ilvl, the quality and the properties of the jewel are completely irrelevant and don't affect the outcome at all.

Example

The Blood Weapon Recipe is used to craft a Berserker Axe (qlvl = 86) that was dropped by a monster in the Worldstone Tower in hell difficulty (ilvl = 85). The character used for crafting has level 78 (clvl = 78).

First, ilvl has to be calculated: ilvl = int(.5 * 78) + int(.5 * 85) = 39 + 42 = 81.

Then it's checked if the calculated ilvl is higher than 99. This is not the case, so ilvl remains 81. But qlvl 86 is higher than ilvl 81, so the ilvl is set to 86.

Finally, the affix level can be determined: Since 86 is not smaller than (99 - int(86 / 2)) = 56 the affix level is ilvl * 2 - 99, in our example 86 * 2 - 99 = 73.

So all pre- and suffixes with a level up to 73 can spawn on the Crafted Item.

Note: Since the qlvl of amulets is 1 the term int(qlvl/2) is always 0, so the affix level is effectively determined by ilvl, so affix level = ilvl = int(.5 * clvl) + int(.5 * ilvl).


I crafted two more items to show how it works for you





This post was edited by smokepurpp on Feb 24 2019 02:59pm
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now education is done now i can continue run

trying to mf mephisto for titans i really want them
did not find anything this run



i try another run, found nothing again



that is about 25-30 meph run so far best drop was tal mask which wasnt even drop on meph himself just level 3 council

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den of evil in hell.. monsters do so much damage to me in hell i am pretty sure this is where my journey going to end



i am not going anywhere close to corpsefire he has extra strong enchant, lightning fury him down!



den is done now it is time for blood raven




i just wanted to add that in normal i had a lot of fun but in nightmare it got kind of boring now in hell it is very entertaining again because the monsters are alot tougher, i got my motivation again
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Quote (smokepurpp @ 24 Feb 2019 21:59)
The item level matters because that along with prefix and suffix will make the required level. I think if you don't understand how crafting works it is best to ask blizzard for better explanation, I am not good at explaining


(...)


I crafted two more items to show how it works for you

https://i.imgur.com/AEB2aeQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UdNc9x4.jpg

I know how it works... and there is nothing wrong with Pain Clasp Mesh Belt or Bone Eye Amulet.

In fact - nearly all of your crafted items make perfect sense except Required Level: 56 on Loath Chain Mesh Belt and Required Level: 54 on Beast Necklace Amulet.
Honestly now, did you really craft those two, or did you get a little creative with an editor?
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Feb 24 2019 05:59pm
Quote (Quorra @ Feb 24 2019 03:57pm)
I know how it works... and there is nothing wrong with Pain Clasp Mesh Belt or Bone Eye Amulet.

In fact - nearly all of your crafted items make perfect sense except Required Level: 56 on Loath Chain Mesh Belt and Required Level: 54 on Beast Necklace Amulet.
Honestly now, did you really craft those two, or did you get a little creative with an editor?


What doesn't make sense about it please let me know because I am confused. You keep referring to level requirement but you when you craft items the level requirement is different based on ilvl, suffix and prefix. All you are saying is level requirement but I can craft a lvl 33 belt or a lvl 65 belt for example and it is same with amulet
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Feb 24 2019 06:15pm
Quote (smokepurpp @ 25 Feb 2019 00:59)
What doesn't make sense about it please let me know because I am confused. You keep referring to level requirement but you when you craft items the level requirement is different based on ilvl, suffix and prefix. All you are saying is level requirement but I can craft a lvl 33 belt or a lvl 65 belt for example and it is same with amulet

Look, I do not mind if you have been experimenting with an editor - but if that is the case, at least be clear about it, so people may judge your walkthrough on that basis. :)
I got suspicious because Required Level: 56 on Loath Chain Mesh Belt is too low, and Required Level: 54 on Beast Necklace Amulet is too high with the given affixes.

This post was edited by Quorra on Feb 24 2019 06:16pm
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Quote (Quorra @ Feb 24 2019 04:15pm)
Listen, I do not mind if you have been experimenting with an editor - but if that is the case, at least be clear about it, so people may judge your walkthrough on that basis. :)
I got suspicious because Required Level: 56 on Loath Chain Mesh Belt is too low, and Required Level: 54 on Beast Necklace Amulet is too high with those affixes.


I'm not using any editor, shit i dont even know what they are.

i just find it strange that you are complaining about the required level when i crafted items with an even lower and higher item levels. you say the items are "too high" yet you don't provide any proof. you literally just spammed my thread for no reason just because you have a "hunch"
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Feb 24 2019 06:23pm
Quote (Quorra @ Feb 24 2019 08:15pm)
Look, I do not mind if you have been experimenting with an editor - but if that is the case, at least be clear about it, so people may judge your walkthrough on that basis. :)
I got suspicious because Required Level: 56 on Loath Chain Mesh Belt is too low, and Required Level: 54 on Beast Necklace Amulet is too high with the given affixes.


if he was using editor why would he bother giving himself charsi gear? wouldnt he rather give himself good items? hes not even using pluggy to make ladder runeworks, why would he bother with an editor?
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