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Jul 9 2013 08:22am
Quote (D2Jomblified @ 9 Jul 2013 14:44)
Just shut the fuck up spawn.
I've been playing this game since 1.09.
I know a lot more than you, just face it the fact that you suck at this game, you are probably one of those people who spends money on Diablo 2 items and you say you found the items mfing


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not only US but incredibly young... nothing more to add^^
btw. if u have played since 1.09 and u r still so bad player then u r definitelly not too smart;)

Let me count that for u:

U counter a monster with ~100 000 life.
It does 2 attacks per second with a chance of 50% to hit you with might aura and 39% to hit with defiance merc.
Your dmg with might is ~7500 while without it 5500
You do 5 attacks per second with 85% chance to hit. 5* 85% = 4,25 so lets round down and say that u do 4 attacks per second which reach the target.

100000 / 7500 = 13,33 - so u need 13,33 hits to kill monster with that high amount of life - so let's round up - 14 hits.

Since u do 4 attacks per second - 14/4 = 3,5 seconds, so lets round up and we have score of 4 seconds to kill that monster.
Through that 4 seconds that monster performs 8 attacks (2 attacks per sec * 4 sec of his misserable life) of which 4 reach yourself (50% chance to get struck without defiance)

Now option #2 - 100000 / 5500
with 5,5k u need 18,1 hits, so lets round up - 19 hits to kill this monster.
19/4 = 4,75 seconds, so lets round up and we have 5 seconds to kill that monster.
Through that 5 seconds the monster performs 10 attacks of which 3,9 so lets say 4 attacks reaches yourself (39% chance with defiance).

Which means both auras gives u the similar amount of hits taken per secs - so in the matter of safety defiance means SHIT!
And whats more! I didnt even count extra life leeched due to higher dmg, extra killspeed due to 40% higher merc dmg and the fact that might increases ur killspeed, thus survivability not only vs melee and phy rangers but VS EVERY TYPE OF MONSTER IN GAME!!!

how do u feel now mate? owned? multilated? ezd?
Ye i know... epic butthurt :)

This post was edited by mysz15 on Jul 9 2013 08:26am
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Jul 9 2013 08:27am
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20 Feb 1997(Male)
Location: Florida

not only us but incredibly young... nothing more to add^^
btw. if u have played since 1.09 and u r still so bad player then u r definitelly  not too smart;)

Let me count that for u:

U counter a monster with ~100 000 life.
It does 2 attacks per second with a chance of 50% to hit you with might aura and 39% to hit with defiance merc.
Your dmg with might is ~7500 while without it 5500
You do 5 attacks per second with 85% chance to hit. 5* 85% = 4,25 so lets round down and say that u do 4 attacks per second which reach the target.

[URL=tel:100000 / 7500]100000 / 7500[/URL] = 13,33 - so u need 13,33 hits to kill monster with that high amount of life - so let's round up - 14 hits.

Since u do 4 attacks per second - 14/4  = 3,5 seconds, so lets round up and we have score of 4 seconds to kill that monster.
Through that 4 seconds that monster performs 8 attacks (2 attacks per sec * 4 sec of his misserable life) of which 4 reach yourself (50% chance to get struck without defiance)

Now option #2 - [URL=tel:100000 / 5500]100000 / 5500[/URL]
with 5,5k u need 18,1 hits, so lets round up - 19 hits to kill such this monster.
19/4 = 4,75 seconds, so lets round up and we have 5 seconds to kill that monster.
Through that 5 seconds the monster performs 10 attacks of which 3,9 so lets say 4 attacks reaches yourself (39% chance with defiance).

Which means both auras gives u the similar amount of hits taken per secs - so in the matter of safety defiance means SHIT!
And whats more! I didnt even count extra life leeched due to higher dmg, extra killspeed due to 40% higher merc dmg and the fact that might increases ur killspeed, thus survivability not only vs melee and phy rangers but VS EVERY TYPE OF MONSTER IN GAME!!!

how do u feel now mate? owned? multilated? ezd?
Ye i know... epic butthurt :)


Lol.
I'm not reading any of that.
What you aren't getting through that fat ass skull of yours is that in HARDCORE, resists and defense are more important than damage until you get a decent amount.
Defiance gives a good defense boost, which is what I would do. After I got exile, I would get the might merc, yes.
Just stick to PvP, although I know for a fact I know more than you about that too.

And another thing that you aren't putting into all of your math is ATTACK RATING. So, all of that math is wrong.

This post was edited by D2Jomblified on Jul 9 2013 08:29am
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Jul 9 2013 08:37am
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Lol.
I'm not reading any of that.
What you aren't getting through that fat ass skull of yours is that in HARDCORE, resists and defense are more important than damage until you get a decent amount.
Defiance gives a good defense boost, which is what I would do. After I got exile, I would get the might merc, yes.
Just stick to PvP, although I know for a fact I know more than you about that too.

And another thing that you aren't putting into all of your math is ATTACK RATING. So, all of that math is wrong.

loled @bolded
at first u say that ur not reading (too scared to see the truth?;D) but
few sentences later u comment what I wrote;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD epic selfown
btw. Just read carefully - ar factor is somewhere in the middle;)

Selfown... one after another... kid just stick to pvm and leave the math for those whos intelligence is above 70:)
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Jul 9 2013 08:39am
can you guys argue via pm? you are spamming this topic too much, and the owner (and anyone of us) dont like this, so, can you guys stop being kids and stop?

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Jul 9 2013 08:41am
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can you guys argue via pm? you are spamming this topic too much, and the owner (and anyone of us) dont like this, so, can you guys stop being kids and stop?


nope, until that guy admits he's wrong;D which is obvious...
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Jul 9 2013 08:50am
Adding one quick reply to the debate. Defiance and Might both have their merits. On paper, no doubt might looks like the best choice. But for HC, you have one chance. You don't FT5 that pack of Extra fast Cursed Frenzytaurs that ambush you when you don't expect it. Some people prefer to play super defensive. You may not kill as fast, but you will survive against insurmountable odds.
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Jul 9 2013 09:00am
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Adding one quick reply to the debate. Defiance and Might both have their merits. On paper, no doubt might looks like the best choice. But for HC, you have one chance. You don't FT5 that pack of Extra fast Cursed Frenzytaurs that ambush you when you don't expect it. Some people prefer to play super defensive. You may not kill as fast, but you will survive against insurmountable odds.


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Jul 9 2013 09:01am
Quote (mysticsword353 @ 9 Jul 2013 15:50)
Adding one quick reply to the debate. Defiance and Might both have their merits. On paper, no doubt might looks like the best choice. But for HC, you have one chance. You don't FT5 that pack of Extra fast Cursed Frenzytaurs that ambush you when you don't expect it. Some people prefer to play super defensive. You may not kill as fast, but you will survive against insurmountable odds.


if u have pure defensive style then every NOT DUMB would pick holy freeze as i prefer to reduce monster's hit velocity for ~50% then reduce its chance to hit by 10%.
Am I right?
And btw - when u have forti, grief and so good stuff (and u r not lag dependant) only retarded ape would die...
but ofc use defiance and be happy with ur lack of inteligence!:)
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Jul 9 2013 09:03am
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if u have pure defensive style then every NOT DUMB would pick holy freeze as i prefer to reduce monster's hit velocity for ~50% then reduce its chance to hit by 10%.
Am I right?
And btw - when u have forti, grief and so good stuff (and u r not lag dependant) only retarded ape would die...
but ofc use defiance and be happy with ur lack of inteligence!:)


be happy with ur 50% :thumbsup:
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Jul 9 2013 09:03am
Quote (mysz15 @ Jul 9 2013 11:01am)
if u have pure defensive style then every NOT DUMB would pick holy freeze as i prefer to reduce monster's hit velocity for ~50% then reduce its chance to hit by 10%.
Am I right?
And btw - when u have forti, grief and so good stuff (and u r not lag dependant) only retarded ape would die...
but ofc use defiance and be happy with ur lack of inteligence!:)


Well maybe you are the NOT DUMB one. You cannot holy freeze Frenzytaurs...go back to your fact sheet. Not replying further to reduce spam. PM me if you want to argue your black and white views some more.

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