I am so confused as to what is going on in that frenzy barb video... never done a barb so i have 0 idea but yeah wtf...

Also, I will start donations for the next pot by saying I'll throw in 50. It gives me entertainment.

He is teleporting to champion and unique monsters, which have an mlvl of 87 and 88 respectively in level 85 zones. He howls away the lesser monsters, kills the champion/unique, and uses find item on the corpses. These are the monsters than can drop high treasure class items, like Tyraels Might and Crown of Ages, etc.

/e He is actually using Berserk, not Frenzy.

This post was edited by pickady on Dec 18 2013 11:04pm

I don't necessarily see a problem with this, as long as people have integrity, and aren't botting.

I'd say keep it HC for sure or seperate from a SC one.

SC characters play a completely different way which can allow them to accomplish many more runs.
Someone died during this tourney and thus their score suffered. A softcore could run around like a dummy for days until he gets what he desires.
SC char could run full boar MF gear while HC has to run some MF and some survival equipment. HC vs SC also influences the area in which you farm.

There is a problem having HC and SC in the same tournament and I dont think it should be allowed at all.

My 2 cents.

1 of the rules is "If you die you're out", same applies to SC players

may i suggest the next organizer to include another rule
"FG reward for HC players only"

SC players can still join in the fun
having 2 different tournament will dilute the interest

cheers

This post was edited by dnsfpl on Dec 19 2013 03:32am

good idea

ahh damn, just came home and wanted to check how long its still going
mhh maybe a bit late, gz to the winner!
i really enjoyed this tournament.
will continue playing my pala, new goals are:
-getting a better pala torch
-better eth exile
-pride for merc
-botd eth ba
-hit lvl 97

should go for death eth ba I think, the deadly strike and the cb make it superior compared to botd

Gz to all winners, im sorry i didn't participated more, but i prio'd the reset - if we make another one in January, i will be ready for that!

- Thx to you seb, for be the main host of this great event, it was a very nice thought, to get this part of forum more active!

thanks for all the thanks

pickady is of course right, it's a Berzerk Barb and not a Frenzy barb. Have no idea where I got that from

I would not mix in softcore runners with hardcore runners either. Several reasons. Hardcore features so much more, even from the start, and requires a lot more than Softcore Any crab people can run SC (no offense) and it just doesn't offer any interest from my side. Even if we allow SC in a HC-tourney there would be too big of a difference. Even if we say just that "any character who dies is disqualified" we lose our characters while SC-players only lose the chance of winning a Tournament. Softcore characters are eternal and can be built that way. Hardcore characters can't. Even just the fear of dying changes your playstyle (atleast for me).

Honestly I sometimes feel like people running with Torch and/or Anni with a bigger stash have an advantage that is too big. The potential of +4 skills, 40 res, 40 all stats (160 stats total!) and 10% more exp is an advantage no other item/ladder runeword can compare to. It's something some of us really can't compete with tbh. Softcore would make that even worse

I'm not discouraging plugy users tho, I understand why people are using it

When it comes to ladder runewords I feel people are overestimating how much differance it does. Spirit, Obedience and Insight are huge game changers tho, I agree. They are easily obtained early in the game. When it comes to all other runewords though, I only see positive things in adding/allowing them as they in turn add/allow for more builds. Infinity is hard as hell to get. If you manage to get one in SP untwinked you fucking deserve it!

There are so many viable builds too. The screens I posted where amongst others, builds varied a lot too.

Blizz Sorc, AT
Any type of Fire Sorc, Mausoleum
Fire Claw Druid, Mausoleum
Berzerk Barb, Pits
Poison Nova Nec, Pits
Bone Spear Nec, Pits
Zeal Pala, Pits
FoH Pala, AT (YUP!)
Hammerdonk, anywhere rly, maybe not Baal tho
Trapsin, Pits/CS/Baal
Different kinds of bowzons, Pits/AT
Java, also viable anywhere
Light Sorcs, Pits/CS/Baal
Sum Nec, CS
Any fucking barb with OP Find Item and Howl

And a lot more builds of course. Some requires perfect item set-ups, some don't. Deal with it