I'll make this post for this alone, since it's a lot of information.Quote (Airwaves @ Dec 9 2012 04:35pm)
what is this pattern thing about
Quote (accHesten @ Dec 9 2012 06:40pm)
Something about same items dropping when a rune drops, or something like that.
I thought most people knew how Lower Kurast worked (and why it's the best place to farm High Runes) already so I didn't bother writing anything more about it!
Sorry sorry...
But here's a scratch on the surface:* First of all Lower Kurast always spawn a map with either one or two Campfires. A Campfire ALWAYS has 3 Super Chests. So a good Lower Kurast map has two Campfires in close proximity to your Waypoint. This means that you have 6 Super Chests to open every run. Besides the Super Chests each Campfire also has one Weapon rack and one Armor rack.
* A Super Chest is a very special type of Chest that only spawns in specific places. For example there's also one behind Mephiso. These Super Chests (or Special Chests) have a different dropping system from mosters or regular chests. They only have 65536 different kinds of drops. Each time you open a Super Chest, one of the 65536 patterns are randomly chosen. About 80 of all patterns contains a useful Rune (Pul or higher).
* It might sound horrible, but considering that you should run 6 Super Chests every run and with a good runner do it in under 30 seconds the odds of getting good runes are much higher than anywhere else. And this is only from the Super Chests. You should also have a few poppables to "open". Poppables like Skeletons, Loggs, Corpses and normal Chests. If you run an avarage LK map in under 30 seconds you should stastically find a good Rune every hour.
Then we also have this "Runes from Chests"-list:A----Normal----------------Nightmare-----Hell
1----No runes--------------Hel/Io----------Gul/Vex
2----El/Eld/Tir/Nef---------Lum/Ko--------Ohm/Lo
3----Eth/Ith/Tal/Ral-------Fal/Lem--------Sur/Ber
4----Ort/Thul/Amn/Sol----Pul/Um---------Jah/Cham
5----Shael/Dol--------------Mal/Ist---------Zod
This means that Act 3 Hell poppables (including Super Chests) can't drop above Ber Rune. All runes under said rune can of course drop too.
And then we have all the patterns (they aren't definit though, but it's a great compilaton cudos to the SP players over at incgamers):PatternPul #1 Cleaver Colossus Voulge Crossbow +4 others
Pul #2 Blade Barrier Bone Knife Throwing Axe
Pul #3 Ring Rune Sword Throwing Spear
Pul #4 Flying Axe Cutlass
Pul #5 Nef Rune Smoked Sphere Vampirefang Belt
Pul #6 Chain Boots Hunters Bow
Pul #7 Crystal Sword Fascia Scale Mail Tower Shield
Pul #8 Double Axe
Pul #9 Scissors Katar Repeating Crossbow
Pul #10 Crowbill Greaves Sacred Globe
Um #1 War Fist
Um #2 Bastard Sword Bone Helm Long Battle Bow
Um #3 Casque Demonhide Gloves Studded Leather
Um #4 Crystal Sword Giant Sword Jawbone Visor
Um #5 Flying Axe Jewel
Um #6 Heavy Belt Plated Belt Throwing Spear
Um #7 Razor Bow
Um #8 Kite Shield Sacred Feathers Spiked Shield
Mal #1 Morning Star Short Spear
Mal #2 Battle Dart Sabre Trident
Mal #3 Amn Rune Antlers Demonhide Sash
Mal #4 Demonhide Sash Sacred Targe Stiletto Thresher
Mal #5 Claymore Giant Sword Siege Crossbow Spidrweb Sash
Mal #6 Helm Sacred Rondache
Mal #7 Giant Conch Grand Scepter Horned Helm Spider Bow
Mal #8 Barbed Shield Battle Sword Giant Axe +4 other
Mal #9 Balanced Axe Mithril Point
Mal #10 Chain Gloves Defender Flamberge +6 others
Mal #11 Ghost wand Greater Claws Kite shield +2 others
Mal #12 Ancient Axe Broad Axe Dragon Shield +2 others
Mal #13 Chain Mail Ghost Armor
Mal #14 Chu-Ko-Nu Heavy Crossbow
Mal #15 Bone Knife Lance Stiletto
Ist #1 Long Bow Rune Scepter Smal lCrescent +2 others
Ist #2 Crossbow Grand Scepter Hatchet Scarab Boots
Ist #3 Axe
Ist #4 Plated Belt Rune Bow Tulwar
Ist #5 Bastard Sword Fal Rune Heavy Boots Tabar
Ist #6 Crowbill Gothic Plate Kite Shield
Gul #1 Battle Axe Crystal Sword Edge Bow +4 others
Gul #2 Claws Cerm. Spear Demonhide Boots +3 other
Gul #3 Amulet Defender Demonhide Gloves Long Bow
Gul #4 Gothic Bow
Gul #5 Claws Cermonial Spear Reflex Bow +4 others
Gul #6 Bec-De Corbin Bone Shield Hunters Guise +2 others
Gul #7 Luna Crossbow Jared's Stone Trellised Armor
Gul #8 Amulet Demonhide Sash Field plate +2 others
Gul #9 Balanced Knife Gothic Plate Hatchet +3 others
Gul #10 Cuirass Light Crossbow Sharktooth
Gul #11 Antlers Antlers Yew Wand
Gul #12 Grand Charm Mummified Trophy Razor Bow
Gul #13 Bone Helm Ceremonial Spear Claws
Vex #1 Balrog Blade Burnt Wand Chaos Armor
Vex #2 Breast Plate Chain Mail Claws +3 others
Vex #3 Crystal Sword Grand Scepter Heavenly Stone
Vex #4 Horned Helm
Vex #5 Amulet Battle Staff Chaos Armor
Vex #6 Breast Plate Claws Gorgon Crossbow
Vex #7 Breast Plate Claws
Ohm #1 Amulet Crown Francisca +2 others
Ohm #2 Amulet Bone Shield Polished Wand +2 others
Ohm #3 Stilleto Grim Helm Pellet Bow
Ohm #4 Barbed Club Claws Hawk Helm
Ohm #5 Giant Sword
Lo #1 Bill Ring
Lo #2 Phase Blade Stag Bow Giant Conch Throw Axe
Sur #1 Defender Elegant Blade Suwayyah Tusk Sword
Sur #2 Ring
Sur #3 Amulet Barbed Club Belt +7 others
Sur #4 Bramble Mitts Double Bow Gilded Shield +7 others
Sur #5 Martel de Fer Swirling Crystal
Sur #6 Crystal Sword Espandon Fuscina +3 others
Sur #7 Amulet War Axe Pike +2 others
Sur #8 Demonhide Armor Morning Star Truncheon
Sur #9 Barbed Club Grim Shield Morning Star
Sur #10 Defender Morning Star Legend Sword
Sur #11 Lochaber Axe Pike War Axe
Ber #1 Antlers Blade Bow Chain gloves +5 others
Ber #2 War Sword Wyrmhide Boots Ring
Ber #3 Brandistock Great Sword Light Belt +3 others
I believe that Vex #6 and Vex #7 are the same pattern, but it's really hard to tell. I don't know the exact math behind this either. Just seems that way
But if you are running LK, these are most likely the patterns you want to hit!
Please don't quote me here, so much text! Thanks! This post was edited by sebhehe on Dec 9 2012 01:28pm