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Oct 17 2016 12:34pm
Quote (Incurso @ 17 Oct 2016 17:38)
Nah i will disaggree for kicker best armor is definitely CoH. And if ww sin then bramble for added venom damage. Nigma for trappers only lol


Nigma speed up xp/mf/moving through of objects on field that you cant compare coh or any other armor at all lol
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Oct 17 2016 01:13pm
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Nah i will disaggree for kicker best armor is definitely CoH. And if ww sin then bramble for added venom damage. Nigma for trappers only lol


I respectfully disagree. I contend that CoH is one of the most overrated/useless runewords in the game.

CoH, when compared with Enigma, pretty much only offers 65@. I would take teleport over 65@ any day. Resists are fairly easy to get in other gear.

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I respectfully disagree. I contend that CoH is one of the most overrated/useless runewords in the game.

CoH, when compared with Enigma, pretty much only offers 65@. I would take teleport over 65@ any day. Resists are fairly easy to get in other gear.


maybe in bnet or u got the time to grind a sp char w perf gear ye.. but idk why coh gets so much dis in sp
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Oct 17 2016 01:24pm
Basically 7x str and teleport vs 65@? Think twice ;) nigma ftw anyday
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Oct 18 2016 12:23am
Quote (vekara @ Oct 17 2016 12:24pm)
Basically 7x str and teleport vs 65@? Think twice ;) nigma ftw anyday


Lold alright 200 damage vs demons / life leech / 65 all res (huge if you dont use fade) 2 skills and mf and dr. The only thing nigma has is tele/more mf you dont need strength if your going double claw build you dont need frw if you use burst of speed. Dont get me wrong nigma is best armor in game. Just not for kickers trust me look up any kicker or ww sin build. It will say coh bramble or even fort not one build uses nigma. But do whatever you want i guess lol id even use duress over nigma lol fhr/cb/ow/res > unneeded tele

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Lold alright 200 damage vs demons / life leech / 65 all res (huge if you dont use fade) 2 skills and mf and dr. The only thing nigma has is tele/more mf you dont need strength if your going double claw build you dont need frw if you use burst of speed. Dont get me wrong nigma is best armor in game. Just not for kickers trust me look up any kicker or ww sin build. It will say coh bramble or even fort not one build uses nigma. But do whatever you want i guess lol id even use duress over nigma lol fhr/cb/ow/res > unneeded tele


agree 100% !

200ed demons / 100 undeads
str (20 from arm is enouth in perfect rift-kick-trapper build)
LL
2skills
res (when you use enigma - you will lose tonns of res, in rift build you never will get enouth res w/o tonns of charms or fade (but fade - nn, useble only vz uber meph/trone staying), better use trap skillers + coh)

enigma on rifter - bullshit. You havent enouth fcr for good BP + bp fcr on assa is bad. Porting where with enigma by rifter?.. Rift assa is specyfic build for KILL ALL style.. She dont need porting to meph/andy.. It is build for cleaning cs and full w2-3 + trone.
Bramble with venom - not for PVM.

FRW on enigma? Oh realy?.. When you getting that, you losing 65@ -> potentially ~3x trap sks = - dmg! Use fade -> lose frw/ias.

Duress too low, and no 2 skills.. COH best for rift/trap assa!, but yes, when i will choise enigma or Duress, i will choise duress. (enigma total useless on this assa build)

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Cuz the casting delay on DF is awful, it can only be used when tele-ing to any enemy, and Enigma is the best armor for most PvM classes and builds.

LOL? Who care about delay?.. Rift build = cast traps and blade shiled.. When you porting by d.flight - you got chanse when struck to cast f.orb, and you just need making traps..

and btw -> 3 sur, 4 ohm in inventory -> MIGHT cubing and MAKE INFY !!!
W/o infy - trap/rift assa sux. Infy and gogogo UT !!! (just left calculate ias vz meph with fade, find fleshripper and jwl ias+res(cold/light 2x) and put them in ripper/storm. (i prefere ias/cold res in ripper, and ias/light in storm, cause light in storm useble in standart playing.. well also i like vex or LO in nightwing for extra safety)

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Interesting arguments all around. Reminds me of the forever lasting bickers in the pvp scene regarding coh vs eni for es fb / (light). Ultimately, the duels lasted so long that the +7 repl life from coh tipped the scale lol.

Personally, if I'm playing sp, it's eni all the way for all sorts of assassin's. The reason being that df sucks donkey cock and should never ever be used. You need mobility in pvm to mf and exp. Use enigma. Lacking resistance? You've been more than likely running lk for quite some time in order to acquire the runes for enigma so in terms of resistance you should be well equipped by charms and crafted items forged by all that crap from chests.

Yes, coh is good. But in the end, you should have no trouble as an assassin with all res (except ut) at this phase of the game. Teleport is just too good and the outcome of moving significantly faster out powers useful coh feats like +xx % dmg to undead/demons et cetera.
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Interesting arguments all around. Reminds me of the forever lasting bickers in the pvp scene regarding coh vs eni for es fb / (light). Ultimately, the duels lasted so long that the +7 repl life from coh tipped the scale lol.

Personally, if I'm playing sp, it's eni all the way for all sorts of assassin's. The reason being that df sucks donkey cock and should never ever be used. You need mobility in pvm to mf and exp. Use enigma. Lacking resistance? You've been more than likely running lk for quite some time in order to acquire the runes for enigma so in terms of resistance you should be well equipped by charms and crafted items forged by all that crap from chests.

Yes, coh is good. But in the end, you should have no trouble as an assassin with all res (except ut) at this phase of the game. Teleport is just too good and the outcome of moving significantly faster out powers useful coh feats like +xx % dmg to undead/demons et cetera.


Use burst of speed. There you run as fast with coh as you do with nigma.
My kicksin on SP owns with CoH i have a nigma as well and never use it because CoH is that much better. But again. Use whatever you want not my problem if your character isnt at the level it can be lol. Also if you plan on going WW id use that Jah on a 'Fury' Claw or else GL ever respecing to Hybrid WW. Jah is hard to find and Fury / Chaos is a must with WW sin unless you can get a godly eth fools but GL its SP

This post was edited by Incurso on Oct 19 2016 12:24am
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dunno why but imgur fucks up the order of my images and sometimes does not even upload them! :angry:
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Oct 19 2016 10:41am
Let's break down this argument

Nigma for boss farming
Coh for everything else
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