I'm not saying you are wrong in that matter. It will be harder to get it procced in an eth bugged armor. But when you're not getting hit you don't have to worry about Fade either. It works both ways. The defense makes a bigger difference when you're using Defiance though, like on my Necro. Merc has 10k def with eth bugged Treachery there. And Fade is on wherever I need it to be

All this debate lately over high and low def treachs...

I dont see why you wouldnt ever want the highest def possible treach really.
If you have super high def you arent getting hit (unless elemental or something I guess).

Furthermore, if you proc fade and you have higher def, you are clearly in a better position than procing fade and having lower def.

I mean, are you going to use a non-eth andy helm too (for example)? Probably not. Granted its not as much defense - I get that.

If you need fade, go to some stupid mob pack and get it proc'd then continue in the real battle (if its that big of a problem).
Its usually Never that big of a problem lol.
If your merc is leading you in to battle, he will have fade proc'd almost at all times.

With a 400 def armor you proc fade and then are using a 400 def armor.
With a 1200 def armor you proc fade and then are using a 1200 def armor.
Im not seeing a good argument for low def here lol. If you need fade proc'd that bad, go proc it on some weak mobs.
Javazons and throw classes have to go renew arrows and wait for 'replenish quentity', why cant you go proc fade real fast (not that you will actually ever need to do that while walking through the game hold rerun boss fights...)

Go high def treach people.

Sorry to derail Seb.

Good progress! Im excited to see how long it takes to get those runes!

This post was edited by Stealth on Jan 27 2014 12:54pm

I was using previous experience out of context. I was mistaken. There are situations where more defense on Treachery (and your Mercenary's helmet) would hurt more than it could help, but that doesn't apply here. More defense should always be better for a walk through, I was wrong.

i agree

imo treachery breast plate will do better then ebug 1200 def in cases where there is no def buffer (shout, defiance aura)

This post was edited by hanni_69 on Jan 27 2014 05:15pm

lol go play with an ebug treachery merc. Fade procs in like 30 seconds. Level 15 fade has an uptime of almost 5 minutes. Once it procs, it will be refreshed often enough that it will basically be continuously up.

/e Sorry Seb, I'll quit contributing to the spam!

This post was edited by pickady on Jan 27 2014 06:49pm

No worries about the posts, discussion is good



Yeah, but this isn't right either. I can't think of any way of playing where a Merc benefits more from less defense. If you are doing very quick runs it's true Treachery might not procc before it's over and this is where one can argue that Fortitude might be better. It's rarely the case anymore though and it doesn't change anything for Treachery bases.

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Ko Rune. Not picking them up.







Not bad. Huge upgrade for me. My charms are horrible.

A good chunk of ED and 2 os and it would've been very cool



Mavina's Belt. Not iso that one.



Sure, why not!

More Ko.



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Did I mention I love LK? ^^

Gore Rider

Yes, I did read Lo at first glance Lo only has 2 patterns though, so meh.



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That's the result of 100 runs. No luck on the rune drops yet. But they will come, they always do.

EDIT: Going to bed! Didn't have enough time today. I'm free tomorrow tho

This post was edited by sebhehe on Jan 27 2014 08:26pm

1k + runs tomorrow \o/