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Sep 6 2012 08:09am
Quote (Tanel468 @ Sep 6 2012 02:58pm)
All the things other have already said + I want to ask a question, how many hours do you spent on playin
i'm like getting 2h on a daymax, and im completely satisfied but you man are absolutely flying through this game.

all my luck goes with you to hell baal
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Created this topic August 22:nd so that's when I started playing. So that's over 2 weeks. I don't think it's very quick but then again I haven't been working a lot since I just recently had my holidays and days off work. Some days I play a lot, if it's fun... :D Some days I don't play at all. I can't tell you how much I play because I don't know... 0-6 hours per day maybe?

But the kill speed so far is so much quicker than any other WT I did. And that's why it might seem fast, I dunno really :p Good example is Countess which took 3-5 min per run on barb, necro and druid. Now it's like 45 sec. Barb and Druid felt a lot safer though. 912 hp compared to 4000 ^^

Quote (Belarathon @ Sep 6 2012 03:05pm)
this is not true though. the bonus to hp from not maxing block isnt a lot at all. certainly not enough that the difference is from 1/2 life in one hit to 1/5 life in one hit.

especially once you have items like i was mentioning, your life would be way high enough, and ive played probably over 500 sorcs lol, definitely over 50 on single player alone. max block is a much better and safer build (once you have decent items, but not really while leveling up, but I still stay 51% block with mosers). but ofc it is not my place to tell people how to play their characters :D

Also, yes you can choose whatever items you like on sp, I have better chars on sp than I do on bnet. I just takes patience (years)


No, but the differance might be 5-6 hits to 3-4 hits. 75% block over 20% doesn't cover that with _these_ items. And no, you can't choose items on SP. You have to progress to get items and everytime you do you risk your life.

I think I've already written this somewhere. But take a deck of cards for example. 52 cards; 26 are black, 26 are red. If you look through the cards there will always be the very least of four cards of the same color together. And by always I mean like 99,99999999999999%. Even five cards together is like 97-98% (might remember wrong but it's top 9x% atleast.

This could be converted to 50% block and you can't even block all attacks made at you. When those 4-5 cards hit you your block chance is effectively 0%. Ergo; Health is safer.

But YES with Stormshield, CTA, DR etc max block is obviously better. Max Block reduces your TOTAL damage taken but "chance to" will always be just that... chance.

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Sep 6 2012 08:30am
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Created this topic August 22:nd so that's when I started playing. So that's over 2 weeks. I don't think it's very quick but then again I haven't been working a lot since I just recently had my holidays and days off work. Some days I play a lot, if it's fun... :D Some days I don't play at all. I can't tell you how much I play because I don't know... 0-6 hours per day maybe?

But the kill speed so far is so much quicker than any other WT I did. And that's why it might seem fast, I dunno really :p Good example is Countess which took 3-5 min per run on barb, necro and druid. Now it's like 45 sec. Barb and Druid felt a lot safer though. 912 hp compared to 4000 ^^



No, but the differance might be 5-6 hits to 3-4 hits. 75% block over 20% doesn't cover that with _these_ items. And no, you can't choose items on SP. You have to progress to get items and everytime you do you risk your life.

I think I've already written this somewhere. But take a deck of cards for example. 52 cards; 26 are black, 26 are red. If you look through the cards there will always be the very least of four cards of the same color together. And by always I mean like 99,99999999999999%. Even five cards together is like 97-98% (might remember wrong but it's top 9x% atleast.

This could be converted to 50% block and you can't even block all attacks made at you. When those 4-5 cards hit you your block chance is effectively 0%. Ergo; Health is safer.

But YES with Stormshield, CTA, DR etc max block is obviously better. Max Block reduces your TOTAL damage taken but "chance to" will always be just that... chance.


hehe, anyways with all this said, it is my opinion that during a WT with weak items, once you have 800 life the rest should go to block. 800 life with 75 block is enough for the entirety of hell on p8 using a sorceress. But if putting max block takes your hp under 800 then that is when it gets to the point that you're a sitting duck if you miss a block. Once you have the life to take 3-4 hits, go block, then after the very short time it should take to achieve max block with a decent shield.. you can go back to vita. Not saying you should change or anything, but thats just how I build mine. I suppose no block would be fun too because you'd have to pay a lot more attention and dodge a lot more stuff

ps just to be an asshole I just spread out a deck of cards to test your theory. in the entire deck there was only 1 spot where four cards of the same colour were touching ;P doesn't prove anything about d2 or max block obviously lol, chance is chance everywhere and no matter what. That's why you've just got to play the odds and do what is mathematically favourable.
another edit: i just re-read your cards statement. i think i understand it better now, and all i did was prove you right ^_^ (about the cards)

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Sep 6 2012 08:48am
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hehe, anyways with all this said, it is my opinion that during a WT with weak items, once you have 800 life the rest should go to block. 800 life with 75 block is enough for the entirety of hell on p8 using a sorceress. But if putting max block takes your hp under 800 then that is when it gets to the point that you're a sitting duck if you miss a block. Once you have the life to take 3-4 hits, go block, then after the very short time it should take to achieve max block with a decent shield.. you can go back to vita. Not saying you should change or anything, but thats just how I build mine. I suppose no block would be fun too because you'd have to pay a lot more attention and dodge a lot more stuff

ps just to be an asshole I just spread out a deck of cards to test your theory. in the entire deck there was only 1 spot where four cards of the same colour were touching ;P doesn't prove anything about d2 or max block obviously lol, chance is chance everywhere and no matter what. That's why you've just got to play the odds and do what is mathematically favourable.
another edit: i just re-read your cards statement. i think i understand it better now, and all i did was prove you right ^_^ (about the cards)


Yeah, you did prove me right :thumbsup: And yes it applies ^^ All I can say is that if I played a sorc with 800 hp and maxblock without ES I'd be dead now. Several times over :P

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Sep 6 2012 08:49am
Two clan packs of Archers with amp + fana. Nearly shit myself. The drops where... well yeah :)



Sold ofc. Real bad roll too ^^

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Sep 6 2012 08:51am
Quite good def on this one aswell. Tal + Thul + P Topazing it when I find a Tal <_< Hoping for 4 sockets for future CoH (possibly! if I can figure out a way to get 13 more fcr without viper)



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Sep 6 2012 09:40am
I remember in classic iirc the old lightsaber was one of the top weapons cuz all the diff damage types and low requirements.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong though. Can't remember if soj was currency yet or not :p

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Sep 6 2012 11:16am
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I remember in classic iirc the old lightsaber was one of the top weapons cuz all the diff damage types and low requirements.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong though. Can't remember if soj was currency yet or not :p


LS was never in classic, but it was quite popular in patch 1.09.
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Sep 6 2012 02:39pm
Quote (sebhehe @ Sep 6 2012 10:51am)
Quite good def on this one aswell. Tal + Thul + P Topazing it when I find a Tal  <_< Hoping for 4 sockets for future CoH (possibly! if I can figure out a way to get 13 more fcr without viper)

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Use trangs/mages with suicide? You can WSG out of most junk.

Coh is absolutely beast dude.
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Sep 6 2012 04:11pm
Quote (Miniflight @ Sep 6 2012 09:39pm)
Use trangs/mages with suicide? You can WSG out of most junk.

Coh is absolutely beast dude.


Yeah I'm still not sure. Sadly I sold both of these.

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Sep 6 2012 04:12pm
Yay :P Gonna to socket the Dusk Shroud.



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