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Sep 18 2009 08:03am
Quote (f0rk @ Fri, Feb 20 2009, 12:36pm)
my cs zon is pretty crazy.

NO TORCH. -you will anger yourself with dropped games!-
use GMB Brand or 8% WF (shael if you need to)
anni
dual leech, +life & +mana ring
ring with ar, str, dex, and all res
120/45 ias bone visage
160/60 ias AP
LoH
razortail belt
cat's eye ammy

Merc - Faith diamond bow, Andy's helm, eFort

Skills -

1 pierce, like 5 base multi, 1 base strafe, max guided arrow, max magic arrow(or cold arrow...your preference), few points in the dodge skills, rest of the points wherever...synergies?

all dex, minimal str

pack your inventory with res scs and ar/life/max dmg sc's


my build>other build>this build>authors topic build
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chaos/uber/pvp tele bow zon,4 min's bottom to top of chaos 8 palyer game with no help.

dont ask me for my build because i will not tell anyone.
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Sep 18 2009 08:53am
Quote (NoxBoX @ Fri, Sep 18 2009, 05:03am)
my build>other build>this build>authors topic build
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chaos/uber/pvp tele bow zon,4 min's bottom to top of chaos 8 palyer game with no help.

dont ask me for my build because i will not tell anyone.


then why post? this is a section for helping the diablo community not to come and say u got something
ur not willing to share please gtfo.
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Sep 20 2009 01:00am
Quote (Papa Smurf @ Wed, Oct 11 2006, 06:50am)
I liked your guide, but disagree with you on one major point.
WF/Faith merc set up is superior to Faith/might-pride merc.
I have that set up and my merc never has a problem keeping up. Also, in case there happens to be a hdin in your party (which is very likely in a chaos run)your pride will become useless.
Also, while testing with might pride I found that, more often than not, I would be fighting solo without my merc. Despite pride's low dammage, act 2 mercs just cant stand up to Iron Maiden!
With an act 1 merc you will find that it has no problem surving as iron Maiden does not affect her. Also, when you add in a potential hdin's conc on top of your windforce you will see how pathetic the dammage with faith is in comparison.
Here are more advantages to WF over faith:
-6-8% Mana leech will be all you will ever need, allowing for that otherwise indespensible mod to be replaced by something else in your other gear.
-Knockback. It's built in. With this, even in an 8 player game, no monster can approach you. Your low life is no longer a touchy subject.
-You get a bonus 20% ias. GM has a base attack speed of 10 as does hydra. However, you get fanat's boost either way. The 20% allows you some room to play with with the rest of your set up.
-You get an open socket!!!! Jah, Shael, 40/15, Lo all provide a huge advantage over faith.
-Giving your merc faith gives you all the bonuses you need.

I recommend everone interested in making a PvM bowa to use WF; you will find faith just doesnt compare. The only drawback is that you wont be able to duel. You are dependant on your Fanat boost and your merc, hardy as she may be in the chaos sanctuary, just cant hold up in the blood moor.


this, i agree... :)
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Oct 8 2009 06:33pm
Hey, a few questions:
1/ Doesn't the A2 Merc get effected by iron maiden? He would be dead after a few seconds :o
2/ Wouldn't the fire storm of the torch slow the kill speed?
3/ How much resis does this build get good resis? Well, fire and maybe poison resis would be kind of the only resis needed, but how does this build reach them?
4/ How much life would you get without putting any points in Vita?

Anyway, thanks for this guide, 8/10 because of layout and missing some stuff like alternative equip/explanations etc.

/edit
I don't agree with Papa Smurf, since you can't always relie on a Paladin in your party, so a faith would be more flexible imo. Even though I'm skeptical about the A2 Merc too ;)
Anyway, I guess there are LOTS of different setups that'll work well, so there is no need to critizise your guide that way :)

This post was edited by Tarantea on Oct 8 2009 06:39pm
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Oct 9 2009 08:17pm
I think u needs to add about how much.

Life
Mana
Dmg
Res
Dr
Fhr
etc... That he'll have when done.

And maybe what bps he'll hit.
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Oct 12 2009 04:49pm
Bump

Any ideas how much life/resis this ama would get? And wouldn't the torch's firestorm slow the killspeed down?

Thanks for answers >_<
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Quote (Tarantea @ Mon, Oct 12 2009, 10:49pm)
Bump

Any ideas how much life/resis this ama would get? And wouldn't the torch's firestorm slow the killspeed down?

Thanks for answers >_<


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Oct 14 2009 12:09pm
Quote (Tarantea @ Wed, Oct 14 2009, 06:29pm)
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resis = nn oyu kill off screen

torch firestorm does nto slow down because onlike phoenixx, torch firestorm doe snot have a castdelay
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Oct 14 2009 12:16pm
Quote (Ancalagon @ Wed, Oct 14 2009, 06:09pm)
resis = nn oyu kill off screen

torch firestorm does nto slow down because onlike phoenixx, torch firestorm doe snot have a castdelay


thanks :)
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Oct 19 2009 07:05pm
Ok, i'm almost finished with her and it's neither bad nor good.
I can easily clear the whole cs without loosing much life (3% life leech does an extremely good job) and mana (4% on the same ring, awesome).
Still, this is in 1 player games and it takes some time...
I don't have my merc yet, but i doubt that i will do much more damage with it.

The most stupid thing is dia. He kills my decoy instantly and my Valk doesn't really work as a tank. It takes about 2 minutes to kill only him, and i need to run thru the whole cs to escape his wrath ^_^
If i get caught in his red lightning, i am fucked <_<
I am not quite sure if it's gonna be any better with my merc, but I doubt that this build can kill fast/at all in an 8 player game...

Some experience that might help:
use a dual leech ring together with raven frost.
If you run out of mana, stop multi and strafe until your mana is full again.
On the way, multi like crazy and use mana pots instead of strafing to fill it up, otherwise it takes (me) longer to get to the cs than to clear it ~~
At the beginning of cs, use strafe like insane and pick up some mana pots.
In the main part of the cs, use multi like crazy. The load of monsters there will give you enough mana back.
For the bosses: cast decoy where they will spawn and multi the hell out of your bow.
Seis is tricky, i once hit the wrong button (caps lock instead of shift) and ran right into the mobs. Instant death.

If you're fieldof sight is clear, but you're not sure what's in front of you, spawn some strafe.
If a couple of monsters comes too close to you, don't worry. With dogde/evade you can tank 3-5 hits, depending on your charm. Multi like crazy to get rid of the enemies. That will also give you some life back.
For one or two monsters, always use strafe. Kills faster than multi when you have small amounts of mobs spread thruout the area. Also requires less mana.

For dia:
No idea. Fucking difficult for me to kill.
Kills your decoy, ignores your valk, chases you. Also, your arrows don't do much damage and you can't leech on him.
If you use guided arrow, it takes a while to take him down. If you use strafe, he will get you caught in his red lightning which is instant death.

Haven't tried with the merc yet, but since i don't really kill very fast, I guess he will get killed by IM before i reach dia, so he wont helpme with him either i guess <_<

Altogether a fun build because you don't rely on your merc, but kills too slow imo, and does too less damage.
I do 5k guided, 3.5k multi and 3.7k strafe with exactly copying this guide...

BUT i need to admit that i didn't use all my skillpoints yet (bow skills are full, passives are not spent yet), and I have only 2 skillers sp far.
I will post again when i got my whole gear (including merc) and give some more feedback ;)
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