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Quote (Dorislol @ 21 Jan 2020 07:24)
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Grief BiS except for Avenger paladin, due to the way +damage works with Vengeance (it doesn’t).

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Quote (Mukhalif @ Jan 23 2020 08:45am)
Grief BiS except for Avenger paladin, due to the way +damage works with Vengeance (it doesn’t).

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Lmao knowledge is how it's spelled way to sound it out lol

539 views so far I bet we helped someone :)

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Lmao knowledge is how it's spelled way to sound it out lol

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Trade forums proves there are many ppl that still need help :rofl:

This post was edited by Hell_of_Dammed on Jan 24 2020 06:05am
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Trade forums proves there are many ppl that still need help :rofl:


And that’s not even counting the “Treachery vs Forti on merc” thing 😆
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Quote (delikana @ Jan 22 2020 07:51pm)
I used to play botd, ppl praised grief so hard that I tested it and yes it kills faster.
But it's not that simple. If you play HC ladder without any cheats ( chicken.. mh, whatever those ppl use) botd is by very far the safest choice. 120 stats points , it's crazy, so is dual leech. If you don't have good gear on every slot, and a lot of melee upgrade weapon first, botd can be way more interesting.
That's what I love in D2. You have choice. And botd will never be a bad choice in HC for players without hacks. For me it's botd untill I can afford very good gear on every slot to cover the dual leech and lack of stats. Also I am far from killing two times faster, and my grief is 39/388 Vs an average 378 botd. It's just faster. But I do feel unkillable with botd. Also the ba of botd provide more range and allow way more gear options, and result with in incredible life boost and confort and security.
At the end, the two are awesome weapons.


how do you not afford grief but can afford botd? Lo + mal vs. vex + zod... string of ears is dirt cheap. desperate for mana leech? just throw a manald on lol
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