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Dec 1 2015 05:33pm
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Dec 1 2015 07:41pm
Quote (Stealth @ Dec 1 2015 08:12pm)
Cya then!


Back!

Quote (IsummonedGods @ Dec 2 2015 12:26am)
God you're making me miss Ancient Tunnels. Such an amazing place to farm. :cry:


It is! I've spent too much time in The Pits aswell so the change of scenery is great! :)

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Dec 1 2015 09:40pm
I used my crazy copy/paste mspaint skills and thiefed some graphs from diabloiidotnet and (creds to them!) and made these:

Ancient Tunnels map:



Ancient Tunnels monsters:



Relevant monster modifiers:



Alright. Here's some useful information:

* Monsters are Immune if they have 100 or more resistance to Physical, Magic, Poison, Fire, Cold or Lightning

* Infinity Runeword (level 12 Conviction Aura) adds -83 to Cold, Fire and Lightning Resistances. This only works at 20 % when breaking immunes (83/5 = 16,6). Which in turn means that any monster with 117 or more to one of these resistances cannot be broken. However, monsters with 115 resistance to an element will break and thus allowing Cold Mastery and any other lowering of Cold Res (like Facets) to work.

* Resistances applies in the same order as they are written on the Monsters (very relevant because of Spectral Hit)

* Monsters are capped to two Immunities, when this happens, all other resistance modifiers are disregarded. I quote sirpoopsalot at incgamers:

"As a sidenote, in the current version of DiabloII, 99.9% of the monsters in the game can only have a maximum of TWO immunities. If multiple mods spawn and the monster should have a third immunity, the third bonus is simply not applied. The exception to the "maximum two immune elements" rule are Pit Lords that you encounter during Über runs, which have immunities to everything except Physical Damage and Blessed Hammers (why Blessed Hammers work is explained below).

Also, the order for determining which elements become "immune" first is pretty simple: It's the order that the modifications are listed. So if a (theoretical) monster starts with 50% to each resistance and spawns "Fire Enchanted, Cold Enchanted", he will become fire immune first, and after that it will attempt to become cold immune. However, if that monster had a natural poison immunity when those monster bonuses spawned, the attempted cold immunity would not supplant the poison immunity - the monster would remain poison immune and gain a fire immunity, but it would not add the third immunity (cold)."

* Embalmed can get Cold Resistances based on Initial Resistance (+33), Spectral Hit (+20 if under 75 when applied), Magic Resistant (+40) and Cold Enchanted (+75):

33+0 = 33
33+20 = 53
33+40 = 73
33+20+40 = 93
33+75 = 108
33+20+75 = 128
33+40+75 = 148
33+20+40+75 = 168

* Horror Lightning Mages, Invaders and Plague Bearers Cold Resistances based on Initial Resistance (+0), Spectral Hit (+20 if under 75 when applied), Magic Resistant (+40) and Cold Enchanted (+75): :

0+0 = 0
0+20 = 20
0+40 = 40
0+20+40 = 60
0+75 = 75
0+20+75 = 95
0+40+75 = 115
0+20+40+75 = 135

Green = Not Cold Immune and Infinity applies -83 Cold Res
Blue = Cold Immune but breaks with Infinity
Red = Cold Immune and doesn't break with Infinity

Note that the above are only examples of monsters have no Immunities (and therefore never capping at two before becoming Cold Immune). Because of that most of the above cases can't happen. Some can though and the important part is that Infinity actually will break a few of the Cold Immune boss packs in Ancient Tunnels. Magic Resistant Modifier applies Cold Res first, then Fire and last Lightning - another advantage of playing lightning damage builds.

All the monsters in AT already have one Immunity, so the second isn't always cold. It depends on the modifiers and in what order they are applied. Pleague Beares for example; they will most likely be Immune to Magic and Poison or Physical before Cold and therefor nullify some of the examples ^

Infinity would mean more and faster boss kills = more exp, more runes and items.

EDIT: Woooah, that took some time to type out and I'm a bit tired. I might have made a mistake or two somewhere, but you get the general idea.

If you find anything that looks wrong or if something is confusing, just pm or ask me here! :)

Gnight bros!

This post was edited by sebhehe on Dec 1 2015 09:42pm
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Dec 1 2015 11:49pm
I want to make a new p8 character untwinked but I'm loving my SC trapsin ATM on ladder. Will have you join you sometime seb. I miss everyone from spf.
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Dec 2 2015 01:36pm
Always love the walk throughs that have teaching points!
You consistently do and a few. I can't remember who had the "pro tips" but they were very useful.

Good stuff! Keeps it interesting and entertaining. Thanks!

Diablo can be such a click fest slasher game that it's easy to forget or even ignore the game mechanics. Love the posts that bring back the strategy side of the game :)

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#236
Dec 2 2015 01:48pm
great post
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Dec 4 2015 05:16pm
Quote (IsummonedGods @ Dec 2 2015 06:49am)
I want to make a new p8 character untwinked but I'm loving my SC trapsin ATM on ladder. Will have you join you sometime seb. I miss everyone from spf.


Do it! Battle.net does nothing for me anymore. No itch at all to try it out tbh.

Quote (Stealth @ Dec 2 2015 08:36pm)
Always love the walk throughs that have teaching points!
You consistently do and a few. I can't remember who had the "pro tips" but they were very useful.

Good stuff! Keeps it interesting and entertaining. Thanks!

Diablo can be such a click fest slasher game that it's easy to forget or even ignore the game mechanics. Love the posts that bring back the strategy side of the game :)


Thanks man, kind words. Pro tips, hmmm, sounds like something someone like Airwaves would call his tips.

Quote (B3rt @ Dec 2 2015 08:48pm)
great post


Thanks! :)

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Level 90.



Maybe this time!



Nope.

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#238
Dec 4 2015 05:17pm
Um.



:)




I doubt I'll find any use for it, but I'll stash it since I've got the room for it now.

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#239
Dec 4 2015 05:19pm
Nei.



Ward.



Great str req 10/10 would use... keepo.

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#240
Dec 4 2015 05:21pm
LOL! From a minion :drool:



Sexy! One of the items I was looking for. Will use it when I actually can make use for it. Need a better Spirit first.



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