Quote (SpAz. @ Nov 14 2018 02:57pm)
Well, that escalated quickly.
Perhaps it really is because of what thesnipa said, that I'm not a native English speaker. It's either that, or that you have a hard time reading/are trying to misinterpret/skew all of my words on purpose. I can't tell for certain, but I believe that my English should be far from incomprehensible.
Speculation aside, fact is that it all started with your quite rude innuendo here in your first post:
Which was also a rushed conclusion, as it actually does in fact seem as if you did not read my post. Because if you did, you would have seen that in the instance you were first referring to in this thread, I applied both my enigma setup and my tals setup for both builds, as seen here:
The suspicion that you did in fact not read
post 192 is further strengthened by this quote:
Because no, I didn't compare a tals light, to an "enigma optimized blizz". I compared tals light
and enigma light vs any/all of my currently available blizzard setups (which are far from optimized: shes running a hoto...). All which is easily interpretated by reading post 189 & 192 - atleast to everyone else it seems.
No, in fact
you are arguing out of preference. Because your preference is
clearly full chaos sanctuary clears. I never for a second argued that blizz is faster in the following scenario: "optimized blizzard sorc vs optimized light sorc, full chaos sanctuary clears". That would be delusional. And I also explicitly stressed that light is indeed faster in that scenario, here:
Which also leads us to your last post:
where you clearly are arguing upon the premise that I were refering to "full clear chaos" when I said the following words (eventhough it's mentioned the immediate sentence thereafter that "light gets better in full clears", because of the amount of immunes):
which is weird in itself, seeing as no-one else seems to have interpret me like that.
To summarize, here's what I've said so far and what I still say:
1. Optimized blizzard vs Optimized light sorc, full chaos sanctuary clears, /players 1Light sorc is the faster, by a large margin.
2. Blizzard vs light sorc with "the equipment available to me in this thread, at the point of post 192", full chaos sanctuary clears, /players 1They're about as fast. Blizzard sorc has alot higher life and MF, though. Plus, she runs ancient tunnels alot better, excluding mephisto runs from the discussion.
3. Optimized blizzard vs Optimized light sorc, rush to diablo (Seals, diablo), players 8 (Which mirrors what you would be doing in legit baalruns, if you are the dedicated CS runner)- Lightning sorc is marginally faster, (2-3 seconds on a ~1min run), if you're also killing diablo yourself (i.e. a Javazon isn't in the diablo party/don't come for D kill), when we are factoring in unbreakable immunes.
- If there's a javazon coming for diablo, they're basically identical in speed.
- Blizzard sorc will be more helpful of a damage dealer in throne, if there is a javazon in the game
- Blizzard sorc will be able to freeze wave 3 in throne
- Blizzard sorc will be abit more sturdy: but they should both be when they are optimized
- Blizzard sorc may opt in for additional magic find, without losing speed or notable sturdiness
4. Optimized blizzard vs Optimized light sorc, full chaos sanctuary clears, /players 8Light sorc is the faster, by a large margin
5. Optimized blizzard vs Optimized light sorc, rush to diablo (Seals, diablo), players 1Theyre basically identical, if any the blizzard sorc is abit faster when factoring in that light-merc is worse vs double immunes. It mostly comes down to that blizz can do the same speed with greater sturdiness and higher MF.
So in conclusion, we can see that it seems as if you are the one arguing out of preference: the preference of exclusively doing "full chaos sanctuary clears".
As shown, there are more ways to go at it. You can be the dedicated CS:er in a baal run. You can be the single player PvM-forum guy who aren't exclusively playing chaos, but perhaps also do Ancient Tunnels.
The conclusion must be this: Depending on what your ambition/target play is, either can be the better choice for you. Both are viable. Which is what I've been saying from the start.
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But there's so much screens to post :cry: ironic, I know, seeing what greath length I went to discuss blizz vs light.
^^
Cheers gl with ur wt!
You went off on a ten page essay based on one example I gave. I do not have time to write my Thesis paper on blizz versus lite sorc. That one example was one of many, it was just that ONE example, that proves the superiority.
You are so off the rails. You some how argue that an identically geared blizz will have more life.
Know that I skimmed your bullshit paper on blizz sorc. We will not see eye to eye. You say Lite is better then back it up with examples that state the opposite about how good blizz is, that are simply not true. Lite is a faster killer, more kills = more drops, more drops = better items.