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Quote (Dewushka @ Sat, Sep 15 2007, 11:10am)
By using 2 ravens, my only mana leech comes from WF - 8% - that guarantees me full mana all the time. And there is always the Insight on my merc. And about PI's, when amplify kicks in, they go down like nothing.

Other thing, i have my passive skills give or take where i want them, and still about 20 skills points left. Should i pump dodge skills or go for javelin skill tree ?


Javelin skills are only for those who want to hybridize their zons to be able to take out Diablo or Baal at the end of an aLvL85 run. I would stick to bows and place them into magic arrow or one of the cold arrows.

However, if you do want to hybridize your zon, charged strike is the only javilin / spear skill worth selecting.
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Sep 18 2007 06:49pm
really nice guide mate. Lots of good info about pitruns (which is very helpfull and interesting). I always liked the amazon class with the bowazon. Too bad not so many people play bowazons nowadays. On the other hand: easier to trade good bowazon stuff smile.gif
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Quote (Perpetual @ Tue, Sep 18 2007, 08:49pm)
really nice guide mate. Lots of good info about pitruns (which is very helpfull and interesting). I always liked the amazon class with the bowazon. Too bad not so many people play bowazons nowadays. On the other hand: easier to trade good bowazon stuff smile.gif


Aint that the truth! WF is sooo cheap nowadays (non-ladder ofc.) that you can pick them up for almost pgems.
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Sep 20 2007 07:24am
good read ken.
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good read ken.


Thanks spifforama, the spiffmiester, spiffsters, super spiff
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So the minions of a unique/unique and champions are all lvl 85? So if you can handle soloing baal/diablo is it best to go to those places instead of the pit? My real question is in fact the minions of a unique lvl 85?

The reason I ask and what's throwing me off is you say this is true, that the minions are TC87 but later you say "sometimes a boss pack can be replaced by a champ pack and this is what we hope for to get a chance to fight the elusive TC87 class" even though earlier in the guide you said that a boss pack + it's minions are TC87 anyway. Meaning you would have less chances against a champ pack instead of a normal boss pack that comes with 3-8ish minions. Did I miss read something? Thanks.

This post was edited by Kateludlow on Sep 20 2007 09:11am
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So the minions of a unique/unique and champions are all lvl 85? So if you can handle soloing baal/diablo is it best to go to those places instead of the pit? My real question is in fact the minions of a unique lvl 85?

The reason I ask and what's throwing me off is you say this is true, that the minions are TC87 but later you say "sometimes a boss pack can be replaced by a champ pack and this is what we hope for to get a chance to fight the elusive TC87 class" even though earlier in the guide you said that a boss pack + it's minions are TC87 anyway. Meaning you would have less chances against a champ pack instead of a normal boss pack that comes with 3-8ish minions. Did I miss read something? Thanks.


the random unique "wind drool" and his minions in the pits would be mlvl88. Yes all 6 critters would be able to drop TC87 items. Of the 6 only one is garunteed to drop magical or better.

Swap out the 1 "wind drool" and insert a champion pack of 4. 2x champs, 1x berserker, 1x ghostly. While we are 2 fewer monsters in this scenario, all 4 critters are garunteed to drop something magical or better with access to TC87 due to their mlvl being 87.

So we net a +3 garunteed chance at a TC87 being magical or better. is this making sense now?

This post was edited by The_Morpheus on Sep 20 2007 10:04am
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Sep 21 2007 03:45pm
is this hc or sc?? lol but yah nice guide i made a zon on hc like this
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Sep 22 2007 07:30am
really like the guide. but i find for pits and everything else my fb/orber would work wonders.

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500 orb

gear: shako/tals ammy/occy/tals armor/spirit/mages/fcr ring/tals belt/raven (cant be frozen)/ travs
inv: mf scs/res scs

it rapes(this ladder)

merc: insight efort and some shitty helm
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wow i would never take the time to do this but gj
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