you said everything. killspeed isn't > everything, it's greater than most things for sure. but you're also in the PvM section in a /pl8 walkthrough, so maybe that one niche style of game play is relevant.

I read your post, and I'm cutting to the chase.
You don't set the parameters of what is discussed. It's an online forum.
You're framing the argument to the parameters where you can say blizz is on an even field with light sorc. I'm opening up the parameters, and saying your closed minded.
Full clear chaos, your on first seal while I'm killing diablo.

IF you're going to use Taureens mindset of kiras on a bowazon I'm afraid theres no point in having a conversation with you. The game is so easy, on any players setting that the safety you are seeking is pointless. Killspeed over everything.

You interpret the "chase" wrong, and you are applying your bias aswell. That's not an intellectual honest discussion.

Nope you're not. You're likely (I can't be sure, please take note) repeating what you read in a sticky. I'm the kind of guy that used to write stickies. And I still go by that standard.
That's not even remotely plausible/true. I would ask you for proof, but I prefer we part ways and you gtfo of my thread.
Finally, I shall add: if you consider "speed>everything" (which is close to the truth but not the end of it), than consider this:
Are you arguing that full clear speed is the most efficient way of playing, unconditionally? Because I would argue that "efficience>everything", not speed.
But don't answer that. It's clear you're not looking for a legitimate discussion.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 14 2018 08:22am

so before you agreed with me that in a niche i was right, now you're invoking Tauren to try and say i'm wrong, about what you previously said was correct?

should i believe the now you or the then you?




yup this, troll confirmed, can't even stay consistent from post to post.

arguing killspeed is better than everything and "the game is so easy on any players setting", while also talking about hell CS clears, in an untwinked hardcore pl8 thread.

read the room egard, you're not in strat and guides.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 14 2018 08:25am

I have a stickied guide, don't try and pretend you have something over me.

Choose not to answer me, but please stop telling me where I can tread... grow up.

In a world where you kill monsters for drops, the more you kill at an optimal mf chance the better your chances are for drops. As light can clear these areas faster than waiting for your merc to kill all the cold immunes which you cannot kill you simply cannot have the same kill speed. The math has been done and posted countless times. I'm not sure what you're arguing. You keep trying to insult my intelligence, which is fine you're suffering from Dunning-Kruger if you think I'm not capable of discussing the merits of this on an even level. It's an old game, you're trying to discuss the wheel again... This is not something thats open for debate, just your opinion versus 18 years of facts.



Kill speed with optimized magic find is > everything. My opinion stays the same, I apparently needed to be more clear. This is the same at every level of pvm game play. My thoughts have stayed consistent. If your saying that pvm survivabiliy is paramount, we're on very different ends of the spectram. I'm pointing out the level of ridiculousness your approaching by comparing your thoughts to Taureens. In hope you'll see how absurd of a jump you've made.

There are more parts to this game than untwinked p8 walk throughs. His argument was based on blizz being greater than light. You can try to marginalize my opinions, and be dismissive, it doesn't make your point, just shows you need so badly to be right that you try and argue based on this small one off situation that one thing is marginally better. In the game of diablo as a whole Light sorc is better than blizz sorc for pvm. HC or SC. At the highest level of the character, set two bots running every major pvm spot in the game, the light sorc will level faster, and if the rng is the same the light sorc will find more end game items.

Blizz is a nice solution to early meph magic finding in hell.

/e

You've made it clear that I'm not welcome, and differing opinions are not welcome in your thread. I'll mosey on back to the rest of the world. Sorry that there are opinions differing from your fragile world views.
It's overplayed but this is literally a case study in "Allegory of the cave".

This post was edited by Egardner on Nov 14 2018 08:38am

You, are, in, an, untwinked, pvm, hc, walkthrough.

maybe you just got tricked by Spaz's shako he found and thought this was some sort of optimized magic find thread. if you look a page back you'll see Spaz found a rare ring in LK that was an upgrade.

to be honest you just seem lost in here, this isn't strats and guides. a guy said his preference for his pvm walk and expressed that he likes the build on sc mf runs as well and you went off the deep end. it's getting a bit spammy tho, perhaps you should spend your time instead in strats and guides, where your opinion is more relevant.



we're one post from Spaz admitting that light is better when fully optimized. i have to ask if you're even reading at this point. then i'd ask you to take your own criticism about needing to be right. light is better, blizz is safer, in the end its close enough to come down to preference, and this is a HC walkthrough thread.

believe it or not having played in every bracket of pvp from hc, to lld, to classic, to hld. and having pvm'd in all those categories as well, i realize the game is diverse. its a bit ironic for you to give me that info, considering where you're posting.



your opinion is fine you dunce. but you were told you were right and persisted, then didn't temper your argument for the context of the thread you're posting in.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 14 2018 08:41am

I am in the PVM section of a Diablo 2 forum, discussing optimized builds. You and the OP are the only ones focusing on his one adventure while I am discussing the whole of PVM.