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Feb 18 2019 01:31pm
Quote (PikaBhew @ Feb 18 2019 07:57pm)
Yup. Made a couple enigmas. One PlugY and one normal. PlugY imo is easier for enigma cuz you can horde tons of higher runes and eventually cube them up, similar to what you have done. But yes it’s a grind. I think someone calculated the rate at which you should get an HR and it was like 1/6500 or something. So 1600 runs as previously mentioned is nothing. Get to 10k runs and then, you’ll be a true grinder


I think it's impossible to do 10k LK runs without getting Enigma. Surs are too common in LK.
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Feb 18 2019 01:34pm
Quote (Dorislol @ 18 Feb 2019 12:31)
I think it's impossible to do 10k LK runs without getting Enigma. Surs are too common in LK.



Not in my experience, and I’ve definitely done more than enough runs. It’s simply rng
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Feb 18 2019 01:37pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 18 2019 09:34pm)
Not in my experience, and I’ve definitely done more than enough runs. It’s simply rng


I think we discussed this a few years back :D

10k runs is alot tho especially if u cube Lo>Sur>Ber>Jah
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Feb 18 2019 01:37pm
Quote (Dorislol @ Feb 18 2019 01:31pm)
I think it's impossible to do 10k LK runs without getting Enigma. Surs are too common in LK.


i never said do 10k runs to get enigma. i just said you'd be a true grinder..
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Feb 18 2019 01:38pm
Quote (PikaBhew @ Feb 18 2019 09:37pm)
i never said do 10k runs to get enigma. i just said you'd be a true grinder..


True grinders doesn't count runs. They farm til they are done!
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Feb 18 2019 01:40pm
Quote (Dorislol @ Feb 18 2019 01:38pm)
True grinders doesn't count runs. They farm til they are done!


so you're telling me you have no idea how many runs you've done?

im sure lii even has a general idea of how many runs he's done of cows/meph/AT/etc.
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Feb 18 2019 01:40pm
It's like 1 "big" rune every 400 something runs.

Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not.

Just because you found a rune doing X doesn't mean thats better. LK >
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Feb 18 2019 01:44pm
Quote (Dorislol @ Feb 18 2019 08:38pm)
True grinders doesn't count runs. They farm til they are done!

This!
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Feb 18 2019 01:44pm
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so you're telling me you have no idea how many runs you've done?

im sure lii even has a general idea of how many runs he's done of cows/meph/AT/etc.


Well it's kinda easy to estimate how many runs you've done since you know your avg speed per run.

How many LK runs I've done? Maybe 15-20k and I've made like 4 infinity, 4 Enigma and all the free cta's, hoto's etc. that u always get by default when u farm LK. So when ppl say they've done 10k runs without getting Enigma I simply don't believe them.
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Feb 18 2019 01:50pm
Quote (Dorislol @ Feb 18 2019 01:44pm)
Well it's kinda easy to estimate how many runs you've done since you know your avg speed per run.

How many LK runs I've done? Maybe 15-20k and I've made like 4 infinity, 4 Enigma and all the free cta's, hoto's etc. that u always get by default when u farm LK. So when ppl say they've done 10k runs without getting Enigma I simply don't believe them.


there ya go. true grinder because 10k+ runs. point proven.
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