Yea I herd those zons r nuts. Just want to have some fun and beat game with a bowa.

Fury would be for ubers and plus it's kinda of fun to have a nice melee killer

This post was edited by Vtrix on Jul 23 2024 04:43pm

pure glass multi/strafe/ga is very deadly too

adding Harmony on swap def helps with mobility ( im at 5k+ Strafe there with a non p Mat bow)

Inventory?

I am a bowazon lover... not necessarily a Multi or GA lover... more of a Frostmaiden Strafer.

So for you inventory, you can easily hit 10k + damage (12k) Physical and Cold (or other) with just Strafe.

Example: you can use +12 max dmg / 70 AR large charms (this is just a prefix charm if I remember correctly) vs 3x 3 max / 20 AR small charms (same amount of inventory slots = 3). The difference would be the Suffix (or reverse) modifiers on the charms.

3/20/20 (20 life) just in case you run into Extra Strong Aura type Elites or amp + lightning range type monsters.
+14 max / 70 AR grand charms for more physical damage, not so good vs Immune phys if your Atmas does not proc.

Can you run Pits in Hell? (this is LoD of course) vs the Archers? What tactics do you use? Decoy + Valk (this is the norm).

You don't have teleport that I can see, I use Fortitude all the time, what about your amulet... it is Atmas right, so you don't have teleport charges to get out of sticky situations, thus you rely on killing every thing in front, and if you have to retreat you are safe right?

I am looking forward to your next post on your progress.

its in picture above (for inventory) ... (i used 14/76gcs and 4/20sscs before the switch)

Most monsters in hell die 1-3 hits tops, phy immunes die fast one atmas procs amp (takes 1-5+ strafes to proc...roughly 5 secs or less)

tatics? shoot -> monsters are dead 1-2 seconds later ( most never get off a shot )

ps... this isnt PvP (PvM is not hard at all... especially with LL and ML)

this is my PvM Frost Maiden (I got rid of Strafe, I didn't really care for it on her... Not enough AR to be effective)



This post was edited by RPG5621 on Jul 24 2024 05:35am

Sorry, did not look at all images, I just looked at what you typed, also, is this the image you were talking about?



If so, why are you using Large charms that total +6 max damage and 48 AR + 5 Dexterity vs a Grand Charm with +12 max / 70 AR + 6 dexterity? The large charms take up 4 slots (2) vs the grand charm that only takes up 3 slots (where you can add in a Small charm with modifiers like +3/20/20 or +4/20 or +3/20/2 dex)???

Example:

GC = +12 max / + 70 AR + 6 dex (3 slots) ... add in a small charm with +4 max / 20 AR = +16 max / 90 AR + 6 Dex

Total: +16 max / +90 AR + 6 Dex vs +12 max / +76 AR + 10 Dex (the difference is the 4 Dexterity vs the 4 max damage and AR... is it better, the same or worse?)

Test it out. also, the 3/20/20 could come in handy if you run into a stray lightning aura (scarab) charge and one elite monster has Conviction aura on them that is still there.

Again, just my 2 cents worth... I only play Hardcore Players 8



EDIT: I forgot to add this in... the Ravenfrost is NOT about CBF, it is about 20 Dex and the 22x AR and cold damage it inflicts... just from one ring change.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jul 24 2024 05:51am

i think your math is off?

Best Grand Charm would be 10 Maximum Damage / 76 Attack Rating / 6 Dex

8x GCs + 9x SCs = 107 MAX / 788 AR / 66 Dexterity (Difference: Gain 11 Max Damage / Lose 16 Dexterity)

16x LCs + 1x SC = 96 Max / 788 AR (also) / 82 Dexterity ( My Option ) (Difference: Lose 11 Max Damage / Gain 16 Dexterity)

and just throwing this in there...
8x 14 MaxGCs + 9x 4MaxSCs = 148 MAX / 788 AR (Also...) / 0 Dexterity (Difference: Gain 52 - 66 Max Damage / Lose 66-82 Dexterity) ( Good option if Skill attacks are very high ED% ( like charge or leap attack for examples... also a good temp/perm inventory for this bowa)

20 dex = 20 stats (id prefer my Crafted rings that have 20+ stats plus more stats/ LL% than ravens) again if it was pvp... 100% need cnbf... pvm i found it to be optional being a bowa and not a jab zon

This post was edited by RPG5621 on Jul 24 2024 06:10am

You are correct, I was referring to my GC on 1.11b (12 / 70) x1 as an example, however my experience in bowazon makes a difference, especially when you come across a bad entry... Worldstone level 3 entering Throne Room and there are Souls and Dolls at the bottom of the stairs... know matter what the fuck damage you can do... you get 1 hit killed before you can act.

Beside the above scenario, I have to question what patch are you playing? you have access to 08WF, and yet you are using Fortitude and all that?

What Modifier are you playing... I am just playing D2SE based on patches for LoD, but I don't have access to 08 items?

It 100% makes a difference... but +82 Dexterity = +82% Enhance Damage ( which boosts overall raw damage = More Damage )

you can get 14 Max / 76 Ar on Grand Charms

Example

Great to know, thanks, 82% ED is awesome (16 slots for +16 max damage right) again, great. So what level are you... 90 and nearing 10k damage? Very nice.

I love Strafe zon, hence the reason for me posting since it is titled. How often do you use GA &/or Multi compared to using Strafe? You have great physical damage, I am sure I would use multi and GA more often than strafe ... of course depending on the area I am exploring.

Besides that, you mentioned Frostmaiden build that you want to build... what charms? Personally I would go with max dmg / ar and cold dmg small charms, the freeze length stacks vs non immunes and chill effect (gloams / souls & dolls are NOT effected) stack ... charms and items like Ravenfrost stack as well. WF to me is the best to use, also Rogue with Faith ... the Knockback is a must in my opinion.

But I am looking forward to your next post about your game play ... all I have seen are images of your damage output. got a vid or images of your game play?

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jul 24 2024 06:41am

Multi to Clear large area's where i need the AoE ... strafe to me is more to see if there are monsters or not and in what area they are

Guided i save to 1v1 boss's ( like Diablo )

frost maiden is purely for cold dmg ( 7frw/bow gcs / 3/17 mana scs? iirc ) kills hell cows in 2-3 F-Arrows based on how many players are in game... i tried the balance build with faith and max charms... wasnt a fan since you lose to much AR/damage for it to be a killing machine... can it kill everywhere... sure. but as fast... not even close.

id rate it as

Pure Frost Maiden > Frost/Fire Maiden > Balanced Maiden