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#21
Jun 14 2024 01:38pm
Quote (Belarathon @ 14 Jun 2024 21:25)
Grandfather is not upgraded, it's the OG elite sword. Doombringer can also not be upgraded, it's a noobie Grandfather.

Back in our day, the only swords were Grandfather and Cruel magical swords of Quickness with 3os (*larzuk could give 3os back then lol>>>WRONG<<<). So 200%/3os colossus blade or sword was considered number 1 for pvp and GF was best for pvm.

The reason I suggested GF for this particular case is because it's pvm and there are a TON of builds thast work for pvm outside of the meta. you can pretty much use anything in PVM. In fact, GF is overpowered by far in pvm lol.

I've lost my point. But I know that you are a gfg user who delves deep into trophy gear. So maybe you forgot how great and nostalgic uniques can be in general pvm ^^

as an edit to this post and on a re-think (toilet), larzuk didnt give 3os but you could get 3os on a magic by 3 chipped gems + magic back then. So it was never larzuk that gave it. Just a changed cube recipe.


Sry i mistake doombringer with BlackTongue
They were same Graphics swords! ^^^^

Anyway had them both Eth and in Elite versions ^^
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#22
Jun 14 2024 01:42pm
Quote (Hamm @ 14 Jun 2024 15:38)
Sry i mistake doombringer with BlackTongue
They were same Graphics swords! ^^^^

Anyway had them both Eth and in Elite versions ^^
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I was a player foremost, collector and pvper beyond that. I've done all for 20 years, although the only place I'm best is in jsp acting cool. The rest of the spots I am #2-#1000

edited for reality :)

This post was edited by Belarathon on Jun 14 2024 01:43pm
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Jun 14 2024 01:50pm
Quote (Belarathon @ 14 Jun 2024 21:42)
I was a player foremost, collector and pvper beyond that. I've done all for 20 years, although the only place I'm best is in jsp acting cool. The rest of the spots I am #2-#10


I play d2 since 1997 playstation d1

but joined jsp too late in comparisson with guys like you,
i found this site in 2010 :()

But i gave my best back in 2011-2016,
I was big d2 bnet player, tryed almost everything, started with caster chars, ofc with Hammerdin ^^ "best d2 char that time lol" now so boring sh.t ofcourse... my nickname Hamm is from Hammerdin word i changed yeaaars back ^^

And through the years i loved physical melee characters,
pure slashing, bones breaking, blood everywhere..... loved that.
Now done too... so old game and bored.

Didnt even start d2r as its just clone, its nice but already played to me..
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#24
Jun 14 2024 01:50pm
@OP grief for effectiveness, grandfather for OG nostalgia and w/e you choose for your own personal style (based on og question)
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#25
Jun 14 2024 02:17pm
Quote (Hamm @ Jun 14 2024 03:10pm)
Whats gg to use low damage item in second slot?

I can say than Grief + Anything you like to choose to hit low with your second hand attack.

"hate" ??? Where is hate?

Why losing time in such topics.. nevermind this.. this never ends ^^


Is Death better than Grief in UT?
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#26
Jun 14 2024 05:53pm
Quote (Hamm @ Jun 14 2024 10:55am)
Grief = Best Damage item in the game
Theres no any other friend

Dual Grief Phase Blade = Best Pvm



Someone told me 450 ED legendary Mallet with 2 sockets is stronger than Grief PB. Isn’t that true? Especially for a rare weapon collector like yourself, it should be easy for you to obtain.
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#27
Jun 14 2024 08:04pm
Quote (Tarisus @ Jun 15 2024 05:17am)
Is Death better than Grief in UT?


I'd use at least one Death

This post was edited by di3tc0ke on Jun 14 2024 08:04pm
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#28
Jun 15 2024 12:06am
Sorry, didnt expected the thread to blew this much.

Quote (MagillaGorilla @ Jun 14 2024 10:40pm)
You could ditch the eDeath. Some people like to pair grief with Lawbringer because it eliminates physical immunes for undead monsters (and has chance to cast decripify on striking)



I should’ve asked this first: What is your main attack?


I have 3 barbs already, one with dual grief PB, one with dual grief BA, and the third barb which I am leveling on NL that I wanted to play around with, so I went with eDeath CS and not sure what to go with the other hand.

My rotation is usually Tranvincal -> Chaos Sanc -> WSK3 and using WW as well.
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#29
Jun 15 2024 03:15am
Double grief pb
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