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May 3 2020 10:48pm
Damn, sorry for this.
It was a great toon!
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Quote (Creature19 @ May 3 2020 10:14pm)
Yah apparently blizzard fixed it in hell but never bothered to fix it in nm lol... so yah need to be careful. I think cold enchant and lightning enchant makes even more ridiculous.. not sure exactly on that though


the cold nova will carry any other elemental enchant, so can be triple dmg in one
RIP :(
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Quote (Fyla @ May 4 2020 05:20am)
RIP :(

Yea, probably FE ench nm bug. Happened to me also



Quote (stevewonder @ May 4 2020 05:48am)
Damn, sorry for this.
It was a great toon!


Quote (Melatonina @ May 4 2020 08:26am)
the cold nova will carry any other elemental enchant, so can be triple dmg in one
RIP :(


Cheers guys! Yeah that elemental bug in NM is something I shall be extremely wary of in the future!

Last couple walks have been melee so gonna mix it up with a caster next ^_^
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May 4 2020 08:34am
If it is fire enchant + a second element the damage output is ridiculously multiplied, most of my chars die to this bug, RIP :wallbash:
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May 4 2020 08:45am
This has happened to two of my walkthroughs as well, so frustrating
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Quote (Creature19 @ May 3 2020 04:25pm)
Where is Quorra at??? Need our nm fire enchant mechanics explained in great detail lol



This lol.

NM Trav is a death sentence for melee. I’ve lost a few chars there.

Rip man :(

I can only imagine the amount of WTF you experienced right then as I did when it first happened :rofl:
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May 6 2020 02:16pm
Quote (Creature19 @ May 3 2020 04:25pm)
Where is Quorra at??? Need our nm fire enchant mechanics explained in great detail lol


Last seen 14 days ago.

I agree Quorra is a D2 legend with explanations

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Last seen 14 days ago.

I agree Quorra is a D2 legend with explanations



Where has he been :o !?
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May 6 2020 02:41pm
Quote (Creature19 @ May 3 2020 04:14pm)
Yah apparently blizzard fixed it in hell but never bothered to fix it in nm lol... so yah need to be careful. I think cold enchant and lightning enchant makes even more ridiculous.. not sure exactly on that though


Quote (Mukhalif @ May 3 2020 04:07pm)
I read somewhere recently about bugged fire-enchanted death explosions, is it exclusive to nightmare? I was trying to keep my distance after remembering that, obviously wasn't far enough :)




Cheers fella, glad you enjoyed following!

Pretty frustrating to RIP in such a silly place.


Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 19 2019 07:31am)
its actually pretty simple

monsters that have both lightning enchanted + fire/cold enchanted cause their fire/cold explosions every time they're put into hit recovery, except the explosions are invisible
since bartuc is lightning enchanted as a hard affix, he's often enchanted by two elements.

this is especially dangerous with abilities that can put mobs into hit recovery without dealing massive damage- rapid knockbacks from leap, or the 10% chance that a shockwave/mind blast/war cry will put the stun debuff on them
if you have a shockwave druid or war cry barb, it can become absurdly deadly with multiple enchantments, since it will trigger hit recovery on every hit from every instance. Limited by nextdelay for some projectiles at 4 fpa, but for unrestricted damage instances you could start getting 10-20+ explosions per second when lots of people are firing off shit. However, the frost nova is still limited to hitting people at a maximum 6.25 times per second due to its nextdelay
anyone who has played shockwave or war cry in pvm should have noticed this often enough to get suspicious.
and the effect is doubled on scarab demons since they trigger it from both lightning enchanted and their default behavior



The way fire enchanted damage is calculated isn't way way different than above. Its based on 0.375-0.625% of the maximum players 1 life of a base normal mob of the unique's type, scaled for its monlvl. IE a level 88 council member has 10201- 12519 life, so bartuc would have 0.375-0.625% of 11360 as fire and again as phys (0.75-1.25% total). So 38-64 fire + 38-64 phys damage, with 5% chance to crit for double damage of both types.
fire enchanted was heavily nerfed by blizzard in hell many years ago to be this low, its actually far more threatening in norm/nightmare. It deals 3.5-5.833% of both in NM, 5.625-9.375% of both in norm. Which is why so many dumb rushers get surprised and explode themselves on geleb in nightmare despite being able to clear him in hell. For comparison, bartuc's cold nova will deal 318-320 cold damage with 46 second chill duration, again with 5% chance to crit

also in fact, NM bartuc has fire explosions of 199-332 phys + 199-332 fire, to compare just how deadly fire enchanted is in NM

hence the real threat in hell is cold enchanted bartuc. He's capable of dealing up to a maximum of 1994 cold damage per second + 5% crit if you rapidly trigger his novas to hit at 6.25 per second. Get him with aura enchanted conviction + cold enchanted and war cry him and he's a rip machine.


Here's an explanation, it's also deady in hell if you use skills that put into hit recovery

edit more info since you died to the frost one :
When Unique is Cold and Fire Enchanted, two novae and two explosions will be released upon death, although the second of each will be invisible. [6] [7] However, since coldunique missiles have 3 frame next delay, only one will apply its cold damage and length. [8]
When a Unique is Cold and Lightning Enchanted, an invisible nova will be released whenever it is put into hit recovery. [9] [10]
Cold Enchanted Scarab Demon will release an invisible nova whenever it is put into hit recovery. [11] [12]
Cold and Lightning Enchanted Scarab Demon will release two invisible novae whenever it is put into hit recovery. [13] [14] However, only one will apply its cold damage and length.

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Cold_Enchanted

This post was edited by Hyperdimension on May 6 2020 02:45pm
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ooh man RIP. Great character :(
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