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Oct 8 2015 03:31pm
Quote (Uchiha @ Oct 8 2015 10:21pm)
Not sure this exists, afaik the drop is relative to the time in game it is popped, so when you pop a specific rack in a certain time window, it should drop the same armor/weapon type, but if you drop it in another window, it will have another specific drop.
Think i read it on another forum, when reading about the 1.07 failure of arkaines/grandfather that was only possible to drop of a weapon rack


I'm not exactly sure how racks work exactly, and I'm not even sure anyone does.

I don't think time is involved though. Monsters spawning around it definately affects its drop, but also the path you take there do.

That's about all I know, they are really wierd and inconsistent!
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Oct 8 2015 03:53pm
I think it's the direction you approach it from and route you take, not sure if game length affects it. It might also be the order you open chests/racks in.

here's an example



here are some questions that are typically asked on d2 sites:


9. Racks can produce the same base item repeatedly if one goes directly to them from the teleport station using the same path.

9a) Racks have a random number generator that has two seeds: a number that is chosen when the map seed is established and another seed that is based on time.

9) This is definitely true in 1.07 strongly, and less true in 1.10-1.12. The terminology is "stable" for a rack which consistently drops the same item type. In 1.07, the order of visiting various racks affected their item drops and I assume it is the same in later versions. That is, suppose you have 3 LK racks A, B and C. It may be that if you visit them in order, A drops Balrog Skins stably, B drops Bone Knives stably, and C drops Russet Armors stably, but if you visit them in order B, C, A they are stable or unstable with other item types dropping.

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Quote (Marieusz @ Oct 8 2015 09:53pm)
I think it's the direction you approach it from and route you take, not sure if game length affects it. It might also be the order you open chests/racks in.

here's an example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE1MNIX8E_I

here are some question that are typically asked on d2 sites:


9. Racks can produce the same base item repeatedly if one goes directly to them from the teleport station using the same path.

9a) Racks have a random number generator that has two seeds: a number that is chosen when the map seed is established and another seed that is based on time.

9) This is definitely true in 1.07 strongly, and less true in 1.10-1.12. The terminology is "stable" for a rack which consistently drops the same item type. In 1.07, the order of visiting various racks affected their item drops and I assume it is the same in later versions. That is, suppose you have 3 LK racks A, B and C. It may be that if you visit them in order, A drops Balrog Skins stably, B drops Bone Knives stably, and C drops Russet Armors stably, but if you visit them in order B, C, A they are stable or unstable with other item types dropping.


I actually saw that video earlier and it prompted me to try and farm the shako.

I tried taking the exact same route and time window to reach the rack. It was popping out a shako 9/10 times. Only when I was unable to reach the rack due to monsters or had to swerve my path would it drop something else.

I tried running directly to that rack a few times and it was not spawning shakos.


I had a weapon rack spawn a thresher earlier but this was before I was paying attention to the path I was taking or time frame to reach it. I've tried to get another thresher but no luck so far :(

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I actually saw that video earlier and it prompted me to try and farm the shako.

I tried taking the exact same route and time window to reach the rack. It was popping out a shako 9/10 times. Only when I was unable to reach the rack due to monsters or had to swerve my path would it drop something else.

I tried running directly to that rack a few times and it was not spawning shakos.


I had a weapon rack spawn a thresher earlier but this was before I was paying attention to the path I was taking or time frame to reach it. I've tried to get another thresher but no luck so far :(


Mosters spawning around it changes the drop, not always but mostly.
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Oct 8 2015 05:11pm
Quote (XcrvX4092 @ Oct 9 2015 12:04am)

I had a weapon rack spawn a thresher earlier but this was before I was paying attention to the path I was taking or time frame to reach it. I've tried to get another thresher but no luck so far :(


You fraps all the time right? :o

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Quote (Dorislol @ Oct 8 2015 11:11pm)
You fraps all the time right? :o


Yes but I delete anything that doesn't contain a good find. I had already deleted the thresher footage before I realized all this information about the racks

believe me I went back through what I had to make sure :)

I wanted that path!
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Yes but I delete anything that doesn't contain a good find. I had already deleted the thresher footage before I realized all this information about the racks

believe me I went back through what I had to make sure :)

I wanted that path!



RIP :(
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Oct 9 2015 09:24am
Quote (Marieusz @ 8 Oct 2015 23:53)
I think it's the direction you approach it from and route you take, not sure if game length affects it. It might also be the order you open chests/racks in.

here's an example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE1MNIX8E_I

here are some questions that are typically asked on d2 sites:


9. Racks can produce the same base item repeatedly if one goes directly to them from the teleport station using the same path.

9a) Racks have a random number generator that has two seeds: a number that is chosen when the map seed is established and another seed that is based on time.

9) This is definitely true in 1.07 strongly, and less true in 1.10-1.12. The terminology is "stable" for a rack which consistently drops the same item type. In 1.07, the order of visiting various racks affected their item drops and I assume it is the same in later versions. That is, suppose you have 3 LK racks A, B and C. It may be that if you visit them in order, A drops Balrog Skins stably, B drops Bone Knives stably, and C drops Russet Armors stably, but if you visit them in order B, C, A they are stable or unstable with other item types dropping.


cool, very informative :)
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Oct 9 2015 02:07pm
I feel a bit like Camo :)

First LK run of the day yielded this bad boy







High Runes Found Only: Not Cubed


1 Gul
1 Ohm
2 Sur
1 Ber


This post was edited by XcrvX4092 on Oct 9 2015 02:08pm
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I could get used to this whole 1 Lower Kurast run per day thing :lol:



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