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Aug 24 2013 05:52pm
[QUOTE=grover09,Aug 24 2013 03:46pm]how much time do you spend doing lk runs per rune Vex+ ?
does that get boring since you are not really killing much to get exp or item drops?[/QUOTE]

Its kinda hit or miss, really. Sometimes ill find a good rune ten minutes in. sometimes ill run several hours without much luck at all.
On this character i figure i've spend about 20 hours on Lk total then a couple more just identifying and doing other related town stuff.
I also know that all things considered i've been pretty lucky spending that "little" time with the results i've had haha xD

and to be honest, its usually not that bad. I kinda get in a zone where i'm trying to move as fast and efficiently as possible,
then i just take a break when i get bored.


[QUOTE=grover09,Aug 24 2013 04:33pm][QUOTEQuote (sebhehe @ <dfn class="dictionary-of-numbers">]It's quite the hard question to answer.

About100 patterns contains PulRuneor Higher (Pul - Ber).100 patterns out of65336.6 chests opened perrun.[/QUOTE]

where did you find info on the # of pattern that can have pul-ber? just a lot of trial and error?

reason I'm asking is because I'm also big into gettin that sweet exp more so than drops, but you need some good HRs to get faster at gettin exp so you need a balance starting out.

Kinda hard to comapre doing lk runs vs. travs vs. lvl85 areas vs. cows when it comes to getting exp and HRs

edit: i guess best mode of action is to would be to do each for an hour and see how much exp and the total number of runes each gives you, since the rune chance trough Ber should be the same in all those areas?[/QUOTE]

You'll prob get more runes running lk just cuz the odds are so significantly better. You also won't find much else in terms of wearable gear though so it evens out.
Just do what you enjoy most imo. Some people just like the thrill of a hr dropping after opening thousands of chests :)


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It is good to have some variation, I have been doing runs on a blizz sorc (already finished hell baal though) meph, lk, sometimes summoner (idk why though), AT (best exp), Andy, and cows.
Might be worth while and fun to try doing just one of those(prob LK, cows, or AT) a lot as fast as a I can to try and beat my own times; sounds like you are kinda doing that with lk runs.

edit: also, no diff doing lk on p1 as p8 correct?

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Aug 24 2013 06:50pm
Quote (grover09 @ Aug 24 2013 05:06pm)
It is good to have some variation, I have been doing runs on a blizz sorc (already finished hell baal though) meph, lk, sometimes summoner (idk why though), AT (best exp), Andy, and cows.
Might be worth while and fun to try doing just one of those(prob LK, cows, or AT) a lot as fast as a I can to try and beat my own times; sounds like you are kinda doing that with lk runs.

edit: also, no diff doing lk on p1 as p8 correct?


Yeah you can't go wrong at all with what you're doing. When i run Lk I do just run that by itself cuz that's just all about run frequency and time.
Other runs like cows, trav, meph, etc ill run them together just cuz its less redundant.

For Lk you get diff drop possibilities from the chests depending on what player setting you're on.
I've never tried it, but I've read that P3 is actually the best for hr drops. I do P8 cuz its good for that, but you get more charms, gems, jewels, etc too.
If someone wants to confirm or dispute this I'd appreciate it :P
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Aug 24 2013 06:50pm
I don't want to quote all those fail quotes (:D) so I'll just answer. I don't want to spam this topic either, so if you want the rune patterns you can either visit my Poison Nova thread at comment #498 (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65371430&f=161&p=439325957) or just PM me!

There are about 80 patterns posted there, and it's really all cudos to runners at a forum called incgamers. It happens from time to time a new emerges, but it's very rare. There's no way there are more than 100 patterns. I'm guessing 85 would be quite an accurate number. 27 patterns over Vex.

In single player, no area is even close to LK in terms of return on Runes. Travincal is second and falls quite far behind. You also need to be able to kill them efficiently and to be the most effective you shouldn't even run it on /p8.

For runes it's very simple in single player up to Ber and probably even Jah. Hell Countess for El through Ist and Lower Kurast for Gul through Ber (possibly even Jah here). Above that Cham is probably Travincal and Zod on Pindleskin or level 85 areas with a lot of monsters. One should know that LK only has 2 patterns of Lo Runes and only 3 patterns of Ber Runes. So if you're running LK you'll most often get 2x Sur before you get 1x Ber. Sur has 11 patterns (atleast) and if you count Ber as 2x Sur and Jah as 4x Sur it's most likely the place to go if you're chasing those specific runes. LK really shines when you're searching for multiple runes tho, such as when trying to gear up on a SP character where you might need several rune words (Enigma, CTA, HotO etc etc). I mean running level 85 areas for a specific rune is going to be a bitch. It's just luck.

Exp: Level 85 areas > Travi > LK
High TC items: Level 85 areas > Travi > LK
Lower TC items: Travi > Level 85 areas > LK
Runes: LK > Travi > Level 85 areas

Altough High TC items don't drop in either LK or Trav, I thought it should be there. Pindle is ofcourse perfect for those high TC items too.

One can always discuss this, especially on bnet. There's on thing that is certain tho; there is no best specific mf spot unless you're chasing pure forum gold. Then it's level 85 areas all the way at /players 1 with only boss/champion kills.
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Aug 24 2013 07:32pm
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?720492-Lower-Kurast-(LK)-FAQ

The thread for those interested.

Highlights being P3-4 is best for Lo, Sur, Ber
On average you will find 1 rune of Lo+ quality every 3,700 runs.

Assuming 30 sec runs on P3 or P4 that is 1 rune of Lo+ quality for every 30.8 hours of run time.
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Aug 24 2013 07:38pm
Quote (grover09 @ Aug 25 2013 02:32am)
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?720492-Lower-Kurast-(LK)-FAQ

The thread for those interested.

Highlights being P3-4 is best for Lo, Sur, Ber
On average you will find 1 rune of Lo+ quality every 3,700 runs.

Assuming 30 sec runs on P3 or P4 that is 1 rune of Lo+ quality for every 30.8 hours of run time.


No, that's not the thread. It's outdated, p3/p4 isn't better than any higher player setting. Copy/pasting old information as fact is just... geez.
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Quote (sebhehe @ <dfn class="dictionary-of-numbers">24 Aug </dfn>2013 21:38)
No, that's not the thread. It's outdated, p3/p4 isn't better than any higher player setting. Copy/pasting old information as fact is just... geez.


ooh you are right. Been reading some more info, looks like that is just a small sample size, since most people collecting data on this run higher P settings, not much data for P1, so that is not to say the odds are any diff for the HRs at differnet Player settings. A ber may be just as likely to drop at P1 as P8 from a super chest in LK, more testing needs to be done at lower Player settings. a lil more info: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?764531-1-13-LK-Patterns/page46
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Quote (grover09 @ Aug 25 2013 03:18am)
ooh you are right. Been reading some more info, looks like that is just a small sample size, since most people collecting data on this run higher P settings, not much data for P1, so that is not to say the odds are any diff for the HRs at differnet Player settings. A ber may be just as likely to drop at P1 as P8 from a super chest in LK, more testing needs to be done at lower Player settings.  a lil more info: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?764531-1-13-LK-Patterns/page46


Again, no. p7/p8 > p5/p6 > p3/p4 > p1/p2...
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Aug 25 2013 12:43pm
Aight guys time for some updates! And some good ones at that!



Ill add it to my collection :)


Hmm thought it said Um when I ss'd xD


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Sweet, I was getting worried about having enough ists for my wishlist :D


Seems to be building up to something...


Finally!! Another Ohm!! :) Cta time


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