Quote (GetStabby @ Nov 8 2019 12:35pm)

I disagree, I think 63 fcr on any sorc is a death wish waiting to happen in hardcore.


I was curious to see how much of a difference it would make if I abandoned the ES idea.

I did some runs in /p8 tinkering around with my build and tried going pure damage / pure vita / base dex
with 1 point ES (72%), 1 point telekinesis, 1 point warmth just to see how she fared.

Although she had about 2800 life and 7k blizz like this,
the 1.8k increased blizz damage wasnt that noticeable of a difference at all from the 5.2k ive been running with,
and the nonexistent damage reduction that i'm used to having from having the huge telekinesis bonus to energy shield
was sorely missed.

Also, with ES both on or off, she couldn't take a hit for sh*t.
One amp-fanat hit from a single minion of de seis hit for 900 life :blink:
with my usual build, a hit like this only hits for about 200-300 life.

The mana regen was comparably terrible as well, and those mana burning ghosties in CS were now a huge annoyance,
whereas with my normal build they dont even affect my mana pool whatsoever.

This drew me to the conclusion that its not just the huge regen from the level 30 warmth and gear,
but more importantly having a ton of points in telekinesis to reduce the damage received in the first place that makes the biggest difference
and is why this dual regen ES build is so tanky.

So I've determined that I've now found the most balanced skill distribution possible for my build,
but the one thing I keep struggling with is the balance of Life/Mana.

Pros of more mana:
*more mana = faster mana regen, bigger mana shield.

Cons:
*Less life on reserve for tanking physical Amp'd hits,
or rare occasions when energy shield gets removed.
*Mana burn still drops it to about 100-200 mana no matter how big the pool is
*Having more mana than life = Blood Mana curse @ Nihl and @ Baal, and is a minor annoyance and can require up to 1-2 healing potions at worst.


So i'm still trying to find the perfect balance of mana/life

this is what i'm going to run with for a while, though.

Here are my current skill trees after BO:
(Not shown: 30 warmth)
https://i.imgur.com/aMUPeQS.jpg



And here are the stats pages:
(with Manald equipped for CS. For WSK/Baal i switch out to 19 sorb wisp)
https://i.imgur.com/Y60fS1g.jpg


I'm liking the 2k life and the 1748 mana is still a pretty nice pool, considering I used to run with less of both.
https://i.imgur.com/HmyrqxB.jpg

Quote (AZ-Brothers @ Dec 11 2019 10:53am)

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Quote (GregorySlice @ Dec 11 2019 12:56pm)

Why all the wasted points into cold mastery? Afaik only level 17 matters

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One amp-fanat hit from a single minion of de seis hit for 900 life :blink:
with my usual build, a hit like this only hits for about 200-300 life.

Quote (oblivescence @ Dec 11 2019 03:19pm)

Fanaticism doesnt actually increase damage for monsters, other than the one Unique monster who has it (seis himself). They are extra strong and lvl 88 minions though of course with ias/AR from fanatacism

ES really shines in situations like this since it absorbs into mana before the negative phys res from AMP is applied... but in vanilla the fact that manaburn is a thing kinda ruins ES for me as a stable defensive mechanic. I did a challenge build p8 SP run where I was only allowed to spec Energy with attributes and it felt great until I hit one too many manaburn packs (since its bugged to burn way too much mana)