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Mar 23 2016 07:47pm
Sorry didnt know bowas starts lvl 1 with -100 life.

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Mar 23 2016 07:53pm
Quote (Melatonina @ Mar 24 2016 02:47pm)
Sorry didnt know bowas starts lvl 1 with -100 life.

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:rofl: my calculations include the 50 starting life, I even got generous by stating level 80 whereas it should have been level 81.

Failed again... keep at it.

EDIT:

50 life [start level 1]
+3 life per Vitality point.
+2 life per character level.

You do the maths.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 23 2016 07:54pm
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:rofl: my calculations include the 50 starting life, I even got generous by stating level 80 whereas it should have been level 81.

Failed again... keep at it.

EDIT:

50 life [start level 1]
+3 life per Vitality point.
+2 life per character level.

You do the maths.


not sure man i'm noob but with your help ok
zon has 25 starting vita points ???? idk

50 + 75 vita pts *3 (225 right?) + 160 = 435 ?
lets say he is crazy lucky and gets tal mask at meph NM, then wow, crazy luckily he managed to shop a 80+ life magic belt somewhere
(lets not speak about the CRAZY luck he would have to find sanders gloves and a 80+ life ammy .. eh it's untwinked chars not BNET!!)

wow he has now around 600 life

its ~200 life left to find on gear/charms minus belt and helm ?

TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE
IZPARAGONZI WINS

This post was edited by Melatonina on Mar 23 2016 08:11pm
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Quote (Melatonina @ Mar 24 2016 03:02pm)
not sure man i'm noob but with your help ok
zon has 25 starting vita points ???? idk

50 + 75 vita pts *3 (225 right?) + 160 = 435 ?
lets say he is crazy lucky and gets tal mask at meph NM, then wow, crazy luckily he managed to shop a 80+ life magic belt somewhere
(lets not speak about the CRAZY luck he would have to find sanders gloves and a 80+ life ammy .. eh it's untwinked chars not BNET!!)

wow he has now around 600 life

its ~200 life left to find on gear/charms minus belt and helm ?

TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE
IZPARAGONZI WINS


:rofl: @ level 81 you have 435 life total + 60 life from Tals = 495 life, then you shop an 80 life belt and disregard Razortail [why not, you found Tals helm right?],
so you ignore killspeed for 80 more life... yup... good on you... so now we use sanders glove with 40 life, when it is basically better to just introduce Bloodfist, this
has 40 life just like sanders, but has 10% ias, 5 min dmg and also FHR... and here comes the 80 life amulet when you could just use Angelics ammy with maybe
an Angelic ring [20 life + replenish], which is better for killspeed because your Attack Rating is superior to the 80 life amulet.

Basically all you are doing is coming up with crap substitutes to prove +X life is better than using basic stat points into vitality, this is where many people fail
with a bowazon. The best way to say this for you to comprehend, you justify +life items over other items that increase killspeed, and you justify yourself by
saying that you place more stat points into dexterity to increase your killspeed... well 1 point dex = 1% ed right, and X amount of AR, you can not justify
any of your assumtions as I can, the only thing that I know is true, for survivability with a Hardcore bowazon [doesn't matter what skill used], 200 base
vitality = 540 life and starting base life = 50 is a total of 590 life... excluding gear, which means this bowazon could get further that a simple 80-100 base
vita bowazon using WHITE gear.

You failed to prove your 800 - 1,000 life bowazon using 80-100 base vitality to be superior to my suggestions, not only that, you have proven that with the
gear you suggested, you have diminished your killspeed because you rely on +life items... compensating items to prove your statement only validates my
previous posts... you lost, and you are correct, I win.
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Mar 23 2016 09:34pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 24 2016 03:39am)
:rofl: @ level 81 you have 435 life total + 60 life from Tals = 495 life, then you shop an 80 life belt and disregard Razortail [why not, you found Tals helm right?],
so you ignore killspeed for 80 more life... yup... good on you... so now we use sanders glove with 40 life, when it is basically better to just introduce Bloodfist, this
has 40 life just like sanders, but has 10% ias, 5 min dmg and also FHR... and here comes the 80 life amulet when you could just use Angelics ammy with maybe
an Angelic ring [20 life + replenish], which is better for killspeed because your Attack Rating is superior to the 80 life amulet.

Basically all you are doing is coming up with crap substitutes to prove +X life is better than using basic stat points into vitality, this is where many people fail
with a bowazon. The best way to say this for you to comprehend, you justify +life items over other items that increase killspeed, and you justify yourself by
saying that you place more stat points into dexterity to increase your killspeed... well 1 point dex = 1% ed right, and X amount of AR, you can not justify
any of your assumtions as I can, the only thing that I know is true, for survivability with a Hardcore bowazon [doesn't matter what skill used], 200 base
vitality = 540 life and starting base life = 50 is a total of 590 life... excluding gear, which means this bowazon could get further that a simple 80-100 base
vita bowazon using WHITE gear.

You failed to prove your 800 - 1,000 life bowazon using 80-100 base vitality to be superior to my suggestions, not only that, you have proven that with the
gear you suggested, you have diminished your killspeed because you rely on +life items... compensating items to prove your statement only validates my
previous posts... you lost, and you are correct, I win.


Jesus Lord there is so much to say, but I take the challenge.
You are the definition of a clueless, worthless and shameless noob, I hope this is just trolling lol.

sanders gloves are better ofcourse for the +10 ias compared to bloodfist, is this a joke ? FHR on a bowazon ? strafezon with FHR ? LOL
angelic combo on a bowazon ? LOL is this a joke ? maybe dont go full vita and then you will have a decent ar hmmm ? are you also one of thoses scrubs who put more than 1 point into magic/cold arrow and let critical strike at 1 ? :rofl:
Razortail is quite hard to obtain via self found, are you just trolling me or just want to be a dick because you cant admit to be wrong ?
There is nothing else than using a shopped belt unless you are lucky, this is where I always get my life boosts.
Diminushing my killspeed what ? are you saying that you always finds razor belt + angelic combo in your bowa wts ? are you for real lol ? Name 1 other belt/ammy that will increase so much my killspeed :rofl: I'm waiting.
Thoses two items only can get up to +200 life, and have decent resists on top of that. and they are easy to find unless a fuckin' razor you silly crackhead.
good god you're so bad I understand why Worrywart told you to stop talking with anyone on this forum.

Now do I need to prove my point by searching some bowas WT's that were correctly built and had just enough HP ?
Are you really 49 yo ? LOL wtf is on with this crackhead nerd ???? denial level over 9000

show me your fucking bowa WT, I will read it tomorrow. and laugh a lot probably :p I bet you use a shitty 3 Ral bow until a 3 or 4 and take 15+min each act boss. i'd bet anything lol. silly scrub

This post was edited by Melatonina on Mar 23 2016 09:39pm
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Jesus Lord there is so much to say, but I take the challenge.
You are the definition of a clueless, worthless and shameless noob, I hope this is just trolling lol.

sanders gloves are better ofcourse for the +10 ias compared to bloodfist, is this a joke ? FHR on a bowazon ? strafezon with FHR ? LOL
angelic combo on a bowazon ? LOL is this a joke ? maybe dont go full vita and then you will have a decent ar hmmm ? are you also one of thoses scrubs who put more than 1 point into magic/cold arrow and let critical strike at 1 ? :rofl:
Razortail is quite hard to obtain via self found, are you just trolling me or just want to be a dick because you cant admit to be wrong ?
There is nothing else than using a shopped belt unless you are lucky, this is where I always get my life boosts.
Diminushing my killspeed what ? are you saying that you always finds razor belt + angelic combo in your bowa wts ? are you for real lol ? Name 1 other belt/ammy that will increase so much my killspeed :rofl: I'm waiting.
Thoses two items only can get up to +200 life, and have decent resists on top of that. and they are easy to find unless a fuckin' razor you silly crackhead.
good god you're so bad I understand why Worrywart told you to stop talking with anyone on this forum.

Now do I need to prove my point by searching some bowas WT's that were correctly built and had just enough HP ?
Are you really 49 yo ? LOL wtf is on with this crackhead nerd ???? denial level over 9000

show me your fucking bowa WT, I will read it tomorrow. and laugh a lot probably :p I bet you use a shitty 3 Ral bow until a 3 or 4 and take 15+min each act boss. i'd bet anything lol. silly scrub


You don't have a clue do you. Hsarus Boots + Belt is better than your suggestion... finding them is easy in Normal difficulty. Angelics is also easy to find, well the armor and rings, as for the amulet, that is
a bit of a mission... remember, when you hit nightmare and hell, the green rings are more commonly cathans, that is why you hunt for these in Normal difficulty.

Outside of Bloodfist, the other combinations are Sigs glove + Helm, thus 30% ias and 10% leech etc... finding those 2 items are easy from Act3 Normal +
Let us exclude Angelics amulet, Mahims Oak is just as good... + 10 to everything, including AR / STATS / RES etc... but I guess you will say finding that is like
finding a needle in a haystack... oh w8... Act5 Normal should suffice ... etc and blah blah blah.

At the end of the day, you haven't even read what i wrote, you sacrifice killspeed and can see this as plain as day, but, you deny all your previous statements.
Shit, rogues bow on Rogue or even the bowazon in normal is a great improvement... yet you fail to see how 50% ias is irrellevent just on one item with low
dmg.

You bring into this conversation other people stating such and such because they have the idea similar to yours... I don't need that at all, I gave the answers,
you failed and your so called comrades haven't even replied in this thread... mind you, now that I stated this, I am going to assume [which is bad on my part]
that you will tell them to post in this thread to oblige your incompetence and try... i state... try to prove you to be a winner... sorry but you failed again.

BTW... I love my bourbons and chatting to people that think they are constantly right... if I was in front of you, I know for a fact I could make you say "21"
within 2 minutes, all you have to do is add, subtract or divide my equations and give the results UNLESS it = 21. But, since we are not in a room in RL, it
is basically pointless right?
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