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Oct 24 2020 02:18am
Quote (Wisteria @ Oct 23 2020 11:57pm)
dunno i dont play.


killing only seal bosses and leaving 1 seal unopened,
c/t tele quickly through map and pop the last seal.

all monsters die and their drops are on ground.


its more effective time wise
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Oct 24 2020 03:47am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Oct 24 2020 09:18am)
killing only seal bosses and leaving 1 seal unopened,
c/t tele quickly through map and pop the last seal.

all monsters die and their drops are on ground.


its more effective time wise


Looks like a good strat. I tend to go Infector first, then De Seis, Vizier last. I tend to forget to check further down the map after hitting the last seal, makes me wonder how much GG loot I've missed :P

Incidentally, what is best gear for telezerker? I guess Grief and Stormshield? I see a number of the guides recommending Arreat's over Guillaume's, is that a thing...? :unsure:
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Oct 24 2020 04:07am
Quote (Mukhalif @ Oct 24 2020 10:47am)
Looks like a good strat. I tend to go Infector first, then De Seis, Vizier last. I tend to forget to check further down the map after hitting the last seal, makes me wonder how much GG loot I've missed :P

Incidentally, what is best gear for telezerker? I guess Grief and Stormshield? I see a number of the guides recommending Arreat's over Guillaume's, is that a thing...? :unsure:


I found few Highrunes on path towards the Chaos Sanctuary entrance, so I always check that part out :D


You can go 105 fcr on swap with x2 Hoto
x2 Spirit swords + 40 fcr from other gear would be budget option, since you also hit 37 fcr bp then on main slot.

I guess Stormshield for DR + Grief in Phase Blade.
Idk why anyone would go for Arreat, I don't see the point in it :D Guillaume's or even Shako would be both superior to Arreat's Face imo

Enigma, Highlords, Arach, Magefists (trangs can work but CR is kinda useless in Chaos Sanctuary, therefore Mana Regen from Magefists is better), Raven, Soj (Bk works too but life on bk isn't bo-able while mana adds on soj are gg), Gore Riders.

LoH gloves are also amazing, but in that case you gotta get Fcr from somewhere else. x1 fcr ring with dual hoto swap, or x2 fcr rings with dual spirit swap, considering you have other source of CBF, such as Cham in Gulli

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Oct 24 2020 04:54am
Grief + Beast instead of stormshield and you are fine
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Oct 24 2020 09:11am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Oct 24 2020 11:07am)
I found few Highrunes on path towards the Chaos Sanctuary entrance, so I always check that part out :D


You can go 105 fcr on swap with x2 Hoto
x2 Spirit swords + 40 fcr from other gear would be budget option, since you also hit 37 fcr bp then on main slot.

I guess Stormshield for DR + Grief in Phase Blade.
Idk why anyone would go for Arreat, I don't see the point in it :D Guillaume's or even Shako would be both superior to Arreat's Face imo

Enigma, Highlords, Arach, Magefists (trangs can work but CR is kinda useless in Chaos Sanctuary, therefore Mana Regen from Magefists is better), Raven, Soj (Bk works too but life on bk isn't bo-able while mana adds on soj are gg), Gore Riders.

LoH gloves are also amazing, but in that case you gotta get Fcr from somewhere else. x1 fcr ring with dual hoto swap, or x2 fcr rings with dual spirit swap, considering you have other source of CBF, such as Cham in Gulli


That sounds good, I'd have thought Dungo or String of Ears but I guess if you're already rocking 43% DR from SS + Enigma... also LL no use for Berserk of course.

Yeah, those same guides were recommending ethereal Death Cleaver and Grief in a berserker axe, so I was dubious of the helmet recommendation. Not sure why you'd use Arreat over Gulli, it's okay on Double Throw build.


Quote (pobo2 @ Oct 24 2020 11:54am)
Grief + Beast instead of stormshield and you are fine


What base? If ya got Grief in phase blade I'd imagine Fanaticism would not be needed?

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Oct 24 2020 11:20am
Quote (Mukhalif @ Oct 24 2020 04:11pm)
What base? If ya got Grief in phase blade I'd imagine Fanaticism would not be needed?


for grief + beast, always dual BA

I've seen some Ettin Axes but not sure what that's about, perhaps someone else is wiser.
Might be different attack speed base or something idk

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Oct 24 2020 11:29am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 24 Oct 2020 19:20)
for grief + beast, always dual BA

I've seen some Ettin Axes but not sure what that's about, perhaps someone else is wiser.
Might be different attack speed base or something idk


You can go also grief pb + beast ba on zerker, you will only attack with first weapon anyway
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Oct 24 2020 01:38pm
Quote (Mukhalif @ Oct 24 2020 05:11pm)
What base? If ya got Grief in phase blade I'd imagine Fanaticism would not be needed?


i would go with war spike as base. reason is simple. in CS you are ~30% of the time under decrep. with 40 ias on grief (in a pb ofc) and HL + LoH you are still at 10 fpa, just 1 off from perfect 9 fpa.
if you take ba as base you need 92 ias to reach 10 fpa. 40 grief + 20 HL + 20 LoH + 15 ias jewel in guillaumes. sure you can do that but sometimes i want to hork with my zerker and then you don't need raven because you can cham your helm.
and anyway beast is useless as dmg dealing weapon in pvm so i don't mind putting it in a war spike...

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Oct 25 2020 06:41am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Oct 24 2020 05:20pm)
for grief + beast, always dual BA

I've seen some Ettin Axes but not sure what that's about, perhaps someone else is wiser.
Might be different attack speed base or something idk


Ettin hits harder but is slower base WSM (also lower rangeadder, not that it matters for PvM), maybe with some IAS gear can still hit 9 frames.

Quote (pobo2 @ Oct 24 2020 07:38pm)
i would go with war spike as base. reason is simple. in CS you are ~30% of the time under decrep. with 40 ias on grief (in a pb ofc) and HL + LoH you are still at 10 fpa, just 1 off from perfect 9 fpa.
if you take ba as base you need 92 ias to reach 10 fpa. 40 grief + 20 HL + 20 LoH + 15 ias jewel in guillaumes. sure you can do that but sometimes i want to hork with my zerker and then you don't need raven because you can cham your helm.
and anyway beast is useless as dmg dealing weapon in pvm so i don't mind putting it in a war spike...


Good point about Decrep, one of the more irritating parts of running CS as melee.

Aha, I currently have a Frenzy barb on single player using eDeath + Beast on main hand for the extra IAS :blush: Dual Grief PBs get samey.
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