wolf dont have secondary berzerk for immunes....

I dont think pride is worth it either.. But if u have the extra runes and don't encounter physical immune monsters very often then why not play around with it
I made it thru P8 hc with a shockwave / summon druid. U dont always need to kill the physical immunes..

This post was edited by 15bucks on Jul 17 2019 08:23am

Maybe if you don’t want to use cta and put lawbringer on swap a pride merc could be worth it? I really don’t know anything about it though just throwing it out there

Use shape skillers and u can also have a 35k rabies damage and 15-17k fury damage, it just rapes everything 1 hit..

Simplified assumptions:


Assuming might merc on both setups = 320% ed @ lvl 98

Pride lvl 20 = 345% ed

Fury lvl 26 = 525% ed (assuming +1 skill cta, anni, torch, and highlords)

Forti = 300% ed

total off weapon ed without pride: 320 + 525 + 300 = 1145% ed

Simplified Pure damage comparison of pride vs reapers (-50% enemy physical resistance vs +345% ed)

-50% enemy resistance = double damage whenever proc = 100% final damage increase

345% ed from pride = 345/1145 = 30% final damage increase

From a damage perspective decrep > pride

Added advantages of reapers vs pride:

- reapers has life leech = merc can use gillaumes helm = massive more damge
- reapers has 200000000x times more damage than pride for merc = massive more damage
- reapers decrep = 50% slow to enemies' walk and attack speed = similar to a holyfreeze merc
- reapers decrep = breaks physical immunities


Why is pride good? Pride is good for bowazons because they kill from 20 screens away. In this very particular case, reapers is worthless since merc is never near enough to attack and proc decrep.

Why is reapers good = for all other chars except when infinity mercs are required. Except for war cry barbs = insight >

This post was edited by MoonLOD on Jul 17 2019 09:19am

Sounds right, but with pride you dont need to wait till your merc hits to get the bonus, you just slams everything 1 hit. And also tbh, i rly dont care how much dmg the merc does, as long as he doesnt die.

Yea i get your point.

But regarding the 2nd part of your sentence, reapers is alot better for survivability than pride. 3 reasons: that 200000x more merc dmg = 2000000x more life leech, decrep slows monsters down, decrep slows monsters attack speed down.

So purely for the argument of survivability, reapers is by far better.


As far as the argument of "not wanting to wait until merc hits something". I understand, although i disagree a bit because, you dont have to wait.

As a fury druid, your merc is mostly next to you hitting monsters. even if it take u 100 seconds to attack a group of monsters and merc takes 50 seconds to proc a decrep, ed% effect coupled with probability is simple: u do base dmg in 50 seconds and double dmg in other 50. So in total, imagine your base damage is 100:

100*50% + 200*50% = 50+100= 150

So your increase in damage is 150/100-1=50%

Compared to pride's 30% constant increase

So even in a terrible situation, decrep still yields higher damage. 50% > 30%

Note for the theorycrafters and min/maxers: i am simplifying a lot this analysis, but since the difference is considerably large, a finer approach would still lead to the same conclusion decrep > pride.

Small edit: if your dmg + pride = 1 hit the entire game, than purely from a dps perspective, pride can be better. But unless you're playing in nightmare, this is never the case

This post was edited by MoonLOD on Jul 17 2019 11:02am

Always played on hell, travs and dia runs in full games. With laying of hands, 50% ds and 17k fury with eth tomb its 1 click dead.

It rly depends on your setup, my wolf had godly gears and charms and it was impossible to die. In a case where u play casual and want to walkthrough the game, reapers is much better at surviving for you and your merc.

This post was edited by StormblasT on Jul 17 2019 11:41am

decrep is a massive damage boost but in p1 it barely every happens because by the time your merc arrives and procs decrep the monsters tend to be already dead
the upside of reapers is it removes physical immunes and it makes for a strong and independent merc

So you want to tell me that a reapers merc doesnt have might, but a pride merc does?

The damage calculation above shows how crappy pride is, it even doesnt factor in breakable immunes and mobs with 50dr... also such a hugh proc chance + jab procs pretty instantly.

As mentioned, pride is for bowzons, zerk barbs (and iron golems)...