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Im playing on single player only and plan on doing colossus grief and death cs combo if i wear highlord and laying of hand ,how much ias is needed on grief assuming i roll the worst possible roll.

If i remember correctly grief lowest possible ias roll is 33 and max is 40.

I might have to just settle for pb grief
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30 ias Grief colossus sword (worst roll possible), and Death colossus sword.
Level 24-26 frenzy.

0ias -- 15 frames
10ias -- 14 frames
24ias -- 13 frames
42ias -- 12 frames
78ias -- 11 frames
138ias -- 10 frames

Not much difference with a perfect roll (answer post 4).

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Quote (feanur @ Jan 16 2019 03:24pm)
30 ias Grief colossus sword (worst roll possible), and Death colossus sword.
Level 24-26 frenzy.

0ias -- 15 frames
10ias -- 14 frames
24ias -- 13 frames
42ias -- 12 frames
78ias -- 11 frames
138ias -- 10 frames

Not much difference with a perfect roll (answer post 4).

You're welcome.


Ok thanks i guess i'll go with giref cs if even with the worst roll i can reach 11 frame

Also does the ias on grief count toward death or does death only receive the ias bonus from glove amulet belt and ias jewel
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Quote (chevelle70ss @ Jan 16 2019 03:46pm)
Ok thanks i guess i'll go with giref cs if even with the worst roll i can reach 11 frame

Also does the ias on grief count toward death or does death only receive the ias bonus from glove amulet belt and ias jewel



I read somewhere that your frenzy swing speed is based on your main hand weapon and your off hand speed doesn’t matter. It didn’t seem like it was true on my barb so I’m not sure where I heard that.

One thing I do know is make sure your “longer” weapon is on your off hand. If you have a longer main hand and shorter off hand sometimes you will start swinging when in range for your main hand but your off hand will be out of range and miss.
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Jan 17 2019 01:40am
offhand weapon go on the glove side right or is it the boots side.
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Quote (feanur @ 16 Jan 2019 21:47)
I agree with you about style. I don't use phase blades myself, I feel they're ugly on a barbarian.


not forcely true.
i 99'd a couple of hc barb with grief pb, guilli and storm.
they looked badass af
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Jan 17 2019 03:59pm
Quote (chevelle70ss @ Jan 16 2019 11:46pm)
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Also does the ias on grief count toward death or does death only receive the ias bonus from glove amulet belt and ias jewel


Frenzy is a single animation, which length depends on both weapons (including weapon type, ias) and off-weapon ias, and skill ias.
There's no separate breakpoint for each weapon.
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Jan 17 2019 04:02pm
:hail: got it
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