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Oct 17 2018 01:02am
Quote (BMar5452 @ 17 Oct 2018 07:00)
your asking on the single player forum of jsp btw

zerk bosses+item find for cs


if doing baal too ww is probably better


d2jsp Forums > Diablo 2 Discussion > Player vs. Monster > Barbarian Guide Pvm > Need Help

he's asking about PvM (Player vs Monster) in a sub called Player vs Monster.
why on earth should this sub be only related to single player? i don't know if you ever login into bnet but also there you have to kill monster

inb4 on this sub ppl post walkthrough, they do that because it's pvm related, not because it's sp related.
it's also true he could ask in s&g but hey
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Oct 17 2018 01:26am
fastest chaos cleaner in game: berserk barb (howl op)

hoto + spirit m switch for tele and 105fc bp
grief
stormshield (gg rare jool or ber)
arreats ber
enigma
LOH
arach
hl
raven
10fcr mana life ring etc
gores (or wt if u really want mf but gores for speed)
wc/life skillers
1x 5fhr5@ sc

act5 merc
lawbringer eth legendary sword
forty (treache sucks on this)
guillaumes 15ias/40ed

not best BP but you dont actually even want higher because most of time you want howl to trigger before dec

this best setup for fastest CS cleaner in game.
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Oct 17 2018 01:44am
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fastest chaos cleaner in game: berserk barb (howl op)

hoto + spirit m switch for tele and 105fc bp
grief
stormshield (gg rare jool or ber)
arreats ber
enigma
LOH
arach
hl
raven
10fcr mana life ring etc
gores (or wt if u really want mf but gores for speed)
wc/life skillers
1x 5fhr5@ sc

act5 merc
lawbringer eth legendary sword
forty (treache sucks on this)
guillaumes 15ias/40ed

not best BP but you dont actually even want higher because most of time you want howl to trigger before dec

this best setup for fastest CS cleaner in game.



An alternative to avoid high str req on Monarch can be dual hoto on switch.
I would personally go with dual ravens or raven and soj for higher mana pool and plus skill
LOH can be swapped with magefists in which case you sacrifice some damage output for fire res, mana, and 37 fcr bp with arach combined in setup. Note that your itemization only has 30 fcr in main setup which is horrible for teleporting unless you switch every time you want to cross some distance.
37 fcr is all you need for cs runs with c/t teles since map is small and always the same so RoF wp - cs might be a 3 seconds difference with 37 fcr and 105 fcr. Distance is not that big to make a huge benefit out of 105 fcr
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Oct 17 2018 01:47am
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fastest chaos cleaner in game: berserk barb (howl op)


java is just slightly faster (matter of seconds) and clearly on another level in general pvm

still i love telezerk barb
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Oct 17 2018 01:50am
Quote (Alone @ 17 Oct 2018 09:44)
An alternative to avoid high str req on Monarch can be dual hoto on switch.
I would personally go with dual ravens or raven and soj for higher mana pool and plus skill
LOH can be swapped with magefists in which case you sacrifice some damage output for fire res, mana, and 37 fcr bp with arach combined in setup. Note that your itemization only has 30 fcr in main setup which is horrible for teleporting unless you switch every time you want to cross some distance.
37 fcr is all you need for cs runs with c/t teles since map is small and always the same so RoF wp - cs might be a 3 seconds difference with 37 fcr and 105 fcr. Distance is not that big to make a huge benefit out of 105 fcr


you absolutely want that that 86FHR BP with with spirit M (also higher mana and likt 55% block) vs +1skill is totally fucking worth it. 105fcr is just too good to pass for fastest runs

you do not want swap loh... need that 20ias and 350fucking ED to almost every monster on chaos + 50fire res... there is nothing even close to be good on this slot

THE THING IS YOU USE 50/50 BOTH SWAPS

for tele hoto spirit m + cast howl -> tele to monster -> switch to grief -> kill -> back to switch tele etc
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Oct 17 2018 01:51am
Quote (attila @ 17 Oct 2018 09:47)
java is just slightly faster (matter of seconds)

not even close for only 3 seal bosses + dia.... but sure for full clear
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Oct 17 2018 01:53am
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not even close for only 3 seal bosses + dia.... but sure for full clear


indeed she's faster even in seal + d
someone did the parallel test but again, matter of seconds
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Oct 17 2018 01:54am
Quote (attila @ Oct 17 2018 09:47am)
java is just slightly faster (matter of seconds) and clearly on another level in general pvm

still i love telezerk barb


Java is not faster than barb in cs. A barb is basically done when a java is done tele to the middle. U still get most of the loot with seal popping.

This post was edited by Dorislol on Oct 17 2018 01:55am
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Quote (darrajuju @ 17 Oct 2018 07:50)
you absolutely want that that 86FHR BP with with spirit M (also higher mana and likt 55% block) vs +1skill is totally fucking worth it. 105fcr is just too good to pass for fastest runs

you do not want swap loh... need that 20ias and 350fucking ED to almost every monster on chaos + 50fire res... there is nothing even close to be good on this slot

THE THING IS YOU USE 50/50 BOTH SWAPS

for tele hoto spirit m + cast howl -> tele to monster -> switch to grief -> kill -> back to switch tele etc



Ah ye loh provides fire res
Forgot about it

I would much rather go for 37 fcr on main setup than 30.
And Id doo it any day.
Swapping in pvm is just derp. Especially on barbarian which is one of the biggest cookie cutters making game easy af on the first place.
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Oct 17 2018 01:56am
Quote (Dorislol @ 17 Oct 2018 09:54)
Java is not faster than barb in cs.


properly built java is better than barb.
if i have some minutes later i'll check out for the comparison, as i already mentioned, someone did it.
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