ok lets be conctructive

- it is impossible to create a hdin build, that doesnt work
- 30fc tele sounds like torture
- loh is useless, %ed vs demons doesnt work with smite
- as mentioned above, you dont need to stack dr in pvm - getting some cb via gulli in there is a valid suggestion, if you're too lazy to switch 2-3 items for ubers (seems to be the point of the guide after all)
- last wishs blind overcurses LT- it is a pretty terrible rw

even if youre actually too lazy to do any switching - at least get some fc, like that:

guillaumes
20fc amu
spirit/grief
arach
raven/soj
gores
dracs

1pt smite - done

thanks for the constructive critisism, i notice the difference with loh on and off maybe this is the attack speed, so there must be something there, my lt never gets overwritten have never died in ubers and i do roughly 10 a day tbh i might just revoke this build im still using it as i find it fun and dont ever have to change a thing or hold extra shit in my stash like everyone else, was ment to be an altrenative to the hundreds of pure hammer builds and cookie cutters out there but okay lets all run the same build on every character and no one ever be differnt. good going guys

youre totally free to build however you want to build. making a topic about your personal preferences with the header "the ultimate hybrid" might not have been the best idea though

i understand your reasoning - but tbh teleporting with 12frames and having to switch out 2nd slot if you want to bo sounds more annoying than keeping a few pieces of smiter gear in the stash

your right about the teleing it is kinda slow but im laid back in game im not in it to tele at the speed of light and do games in 3 mins im rich enough no to have to worry about item drops i play for pure fun and weird builds, done all that in the past or could log my sorc for that, the bo thing can be annoying but i dont actually have to bo for anything i just dont die i bo so the numbers look good tbh on the health board and most of the time i have a friend with me on his baba and another few friends with cta so i dont ever have to do it rlly, i relaise im not the best at typing and the ultimate hybrid title agreed in hindsight should have been something differnt but i thought it would be catchy rather than insulting, thats why i explain in the frst half of the guide that this is no means a best or stream lined build it just works for me personally to be lazy and still easily do everything in the game, aswell as saying it could be done alot cheaper, my next venture is orb/lightning sorc which i have no doubt everyone will be in uproar over thats me done for writing now then i guess just thought id try something constructive whilst i waited for clone to spawn

there are dozens of builds that works "everywhere" lmao
including thoses that works better than yours

Breakpoints are important.

your all coming at this like i said it was the best build ever you know what forget it i wont right anything again u stick to your googled builds with no imagination, with your chars that have had the same items for 15 years that every single player has, how about you go write a build oh wait u cant cos ur using someone elses.

belarathon your right they are i hit most of mine in this build just not fcr which i get by just fine if i was making a pure build id copy one thats been done forever but thats not the point of this and yes melatonia there are builds that do this aswell bowa frenzy barb etc i have them already was trying to make something interesting not something original cos im sure this has been tried before but i dont want to use a build that 99% of players have thats pure boring everyone can do that which is why u see 100 copys of the smae char, i find it fun when i hammer down ancients in no time at all then smite to death the last one in a few seconds then the guy im helping gets confused and asks are u hammer or smite cos now im not sure, instead of knowing exactly what gear im wearing before i even show him or exactly what skills i got cos again its been done a billion times

Theorycrating 2k18

your imagination at its ultimate level : take hammer and switch a few items so he can smite with bad smite and hammer with bad hammer

cool story bro

you've just put together bad items and thought it wuz cool
like wow, nobody ever thought about this in 20 years, I must post my discovery