I am doing a quest to complete the game with all classes and so far I've beaten all except Amazon. I just finished Hell Ancients but I cannot for the life of me get through the worldstone keep and throne. I keep trying to run/tele and keep dying until I run out of gold then I need to go to LK until I have enough to keep going.

Here is my gear:

Helm: Lore
Weapon: 2 java / 10ias / replenish maiden javs
Shield: rhyme bone shield
Armor: peace runeword
Amulet: nokozan
Rings: ravenfrost/SOJ
Gloves: 30fr/30lr/20mf
Belt: 24fhr/str/life/res
Boots: FRW/FR

Switch: tele staff/LR wand

Merc: Insight Bec-de-Cordin, Ebug mage plate treachery, rare circlet 15res

I have a point in Valk and Pierce and the rest into lightning jav skills using CS on left and LF on right with decoy and valk also.

I am thinking that I could run NM Meph on P8 to try to get titans, or Hell Meph on P1 to try for better drops. I think higher end gear would help.

What do you think?

You need to find yourself some gear.

Durials Shell is a decent armor with res that you can hunt for. If you are lucky even Eth Skulders Ire would work... again you could try treachery on yourself.

Titans
LoH or even Bloodfists
Rare or craft amulet with more Res, maybe some stats or zon skill.
Nataylas boots if you find them before WT, Aldurs... maybe just Hotspurs.

What aura is the merc? Holy Freeze I would think, or did you go Might Aura.

There are a ton of things you need, why 1 base point Valk and not Max? ... just adds another tanker for you and your merc.

What strategy do you apply when you get to Throne? Do you kill centre(center) mobs and one side before confronting the Waves? ... well here is a trick... clear left/right etc before going to take on the waves, before each wave, you put a decoy on the bottom of the stairs at Baals throne and run to the second to last Beam (Pillar) behind it, when wave spawns, kill them (first 2 are easy as pie and repeat / rinse Decoy on bottom stairs)... 3rd wave should be easier since their attention is on decoy, but if in trouble, lure them down... kill them, then decoy to bottom of stairs... 4th wave should be easy also, so 5th wave... Lister pack is a bitch, you can lure them OUT of the area if Lister is immune lightning, then go to opposite side and tele back into the throne area and follow Baal down and try to kill him there.

Hope that helps.

switch to Treachery for armor you will want the Ias it gives over the 2 amazon skills promise.
Titans really needs to be a priority and noscoil belt. you want to have at lease 100% chance to pierce with the pierce given on noscoil and the skill.

would just farm nm meph or baal for these items unless you can do hell meph.

Lore is okay until like shako or even crown of theives or something.

ammulet should be what ever til maras or highlords
rings same til ravens and maybe bk ring
war trav boots are best but nat boots should be ok.
laying of hands is great or any +java 20ias gloves tbh

farm for infinity if you are able to make it.

put life leech on your merc like tals helm or Crown of Theives

This post was edited by Theology on May 4 2021 09:53pm

If you're trying to full clear you could respec to Fishyzon ie frozen arrow, lightning fury, charged strike. Melody is super cheap and you can put them in a matriarchal bow for that juicy plus 6 to bow skills.

If you have done Anya quest you should be able to jump in an out of the portal and get your hands on some gloves with plus 3 to jav or bow and 20 ias.

I would run nightmare mephy until you get razortail as the damage increase from 100% pierce is insane. Titans, mosers shield, aldurs boots, etc would also be very good. Buriza is not hard to find either and it would allow you to easily handle light immunes.

This would probably not be a popular suggestion but putting 4/6/4 in the dodge skills then maxing decoy and dumping 5+ into pierce would allow you to throw many lightning furies without having to kite much. Monsters are dumb as hell and theyll go for the decoy every single time.

If you can find a half assed decent bow, even Edge in an elite bow would be alright as it gives tons of damage to demons and undead then chuck a point or twenty into guided arrow that would take care of light immunes provided your decoy can tank.

You could go for maxed valk instead but frankly their damage isnt amazing and the ability to cast decoy wherever and whenever you want is quite nice.

Ok thanks everyone.

I think I am out of respecs so I cant go to hybrid zon at this point. I put a point into valk because for some reason the valk from peace disapears faster when you dont have a solid point. I cant explain that but it happens. For the stronger valk I usually have the one peace spawns. If I could have a respec I would probably go at least level 17 valk for the war pike addition.

I think my merc needs a tal or better helm and possibly an elite base insight so that he has an easier time staying alive. We are usually good to go until we get stomped by a super fast and light immune pack and the zon teles so slow I cant usually get away. This is were mrllamas videos dont help because hes a master of the run and tele but im too slow.

I think I need to farm titans and razortail at a minimum. I dont have the heart to farm an infinity in LK. I can kill hell Meph on P1 pretty easily but I would like to get to P7 for the drops...

So far I have found 44MF war travs and a duriels shell... keep on truckin

Ouch... I have been reading about this Llama something or a-rather character, guessing YouTube nit wit that doesn't realize people don't play the game like him or have the knowledge of what to expect from start to scratch, or he is one of the scrubs that just gets into a level up game and ignores the start of the game.

Sorry, hate numbskulls like that (no, haven't watched his vids, don't want to by the discussions I have read).

Okay... not sure if you have come across Angelics Ring / Amulet & Armor (yes low level set items)... if you wear all 3 items (add another Angelic ring) You will get a lot of bonuses... 100% mf to start... only good for Nightmare really... also another low set... Hsarus (shield / belt / boots) give bonuses... Then you need a weapon... this is how you would like to start from level 6 & 12 in a run, but not possible.

People mentioned Razortail... you need to reach skill level 9 + Razortail to have 100% Pierce (102% to be precise, but doesn't matter). As for Burrizza Xbow, it has 100% pierce, but is NOT as easy to find compared with Hellrack... my option is NOT to use these items because of the Strength requirement since you don't have Respec points either. Ahh, you can not go hybrid, sorry.

Get some Rare replenish javs, hopefully 2, this way you can switch while bombarding LF at packs. You have 1 base Decoy... use it ahead of you, mostly in hallways & corridors, very helpful in luring out what monsters are ahead of you and those around a corner.

Don't go the DAE route... 1 base point only... there is great value in what was posted, but you don't have respec points.

There is a low level necro helm that has 5% LL on it, if you don't find CoT or Tals mask ... also, you can use Tals mask for its properties.

There are a ton of things... but these are the key things:

#1: Resistances most important: Lightning & Fire ... so if you come across boots that have mass res to light & fire with FRW, you can use them if you have low Res... but since you have WT, maybe on the Amulet or Rings (again depending on the Rings)
#2: +Skill items ... Lore is good, but weigh what you need for resistances again.
#3: Pierce... fundamentally the best... remember Skill level 9 with Razortail... so keep this in mind, do NOT add more points than that, especially since you don't have Respec when you start finding +Skill items to increase it.
#4: Not really important to me since I play at a distance... but FHR.

Oh... charms, life / res and elemental damage... the elemental damage is just for when using Jab (swarmed or immune lightning) or CS (boss)

Grats on the Durials Shell armor...

If you dont have the time to farm infinity, do everything you can to maximize physical javelin damage. Titans especially upped titans will be the best. Laying of hands can help in certain situations, max block will up your attack rating for jab, war travelers are nice with the added damage and ofc gore riders or gtoes would be alright. You dont have respecs so I hope you have max block but if you dont, 1 or more points into guided and a beefy bow will work too.

Umm... really?

LF / CS javazons NEVER rely on phys damage unless (personally don't think it would make a difference) it is PvP.

It's only for jab if he decides to full clear.