If i make a grief in a colossus sword instead of a pb how much ias will i need to reach the bp .

I plan on using grief cs and death cs combo

Im not sure how the calculators actually work but there is a 35 -40 weapon speed difference so looks like it wouldn't be possible to match it with grief ias variation...

google diablo 2 weapon speed calculator

first link

Not working for frenzy, unfortunatly.



Assuming level 24-26 frenzy and 40ias Grief :

+0ias -- 15 frames
+8ias -- 14 frames
+20ias -- 13 frames
+42ias -- 12 frames
+73ias -- 11 frames
+133ias -- 10 frames

Highlord's & Laying of hands already give you 40ias.
Insert a ias jewel in your Guillaume's face for the 12 frames breakpoint (or use Nosferatu belt rather than String of ear).

Would a giref cs do a little more dmg than a pb if i reach the same ias breakpoint, or are the base weapon damage not taken into account with grief 400%ed bonus, i know a pb grief is probably the better option since you also dont need to repair it, but i just like the colossus sword look better.

This post was edited by chevelle70ss on Jan 15 2019 10:25pm

grief doesn't give 400%ed, it gives 400dmg.
it's like war travs except instead of +15 +25 it's +400 +400

Yes sorry i forgot about that

I agree with you about style. I don't use phase blades myself, I feel they're ugly on a barbarian.

I went :
Grief Zweihander + Grief Colossus sword.

Pro's :
- style
- style
- style
- better range
- slight more damage (and same speed than 2 x phase blades)

Con's :
- need repair.
Actually, with non superior bases (+400 damage is much more important than +15ed), repair cost is low.

If i am using loh and highlord i should be fine to hit the ias bp, also how much damage do you lose with a zweihander compared to colossus sword grief, and are the damage higher than dual grief pb by alot or just a little.

Perfect Grief in non superior base :
Zweihander = 419-435 damage (average 427)
Colossus sword = 426-470 damage (average 448)

Perfect Grief in perfect (15%ed) base :
Zweihander = 421-440 (average 430.5)
Colossus sword = 429-480 (average 454.5)
Phase blade = 435-440 (average 437.5)

With 2 x Colossus swords, last ias breakpoint will be very hard to reach. Keep this in mind also.