Is it technically a grail if you do walkthru on 1.14 without plugy, etc?

Couldn't do anni or torch

Of course

if u collect every item
im not sure if u have to keep the items or not

Nah only hc p8 plugy count, torch and anni only belong in sp

Well I'm saying if you dont use plugy etc you cant get torch or anni

You can do grail without anni and torch. It’s just added for PlugY. If you collect each object and not torch anni, it’s still considered completed grail.

This. Whatever is attainable with the patch you play.

You don't have to keep the items



Don't think it's added in most plugy grails either

Holy grail is just excuse to download and use plugy. It is kinda funny when most people who is making grail puts this in their rules ''plugy because holy grail'' (makes no fucking sense at the end)

Back in 2014? when plugy epidemic started to spread and ''big'' streamers like mrlama and others to this day, most use plugy so cant blame why so many people these days uses plugy without thinking how much it makes game easier and takes away from normal /p8 challenge

Anni and torch was never meant to be in singleplayer and anni alone is already so fucking OP item to have without no effort. And most classes can do nerfed ubers without any problems for even more retarded charm.

ps. i still don't care if u choose to use plugy

ps. reruns on any /p X is also lazy and lame

You could easily argue that it's far more legit and worthwhile than a plugy grail.

Can of worms opened!