Hello. I realy like golems and i want make most tanky version of them.

I want be able to tank sirus and do all endgame comfortable. It is possible with golems ? probably need some aura stacking right ?

Stone or carrion can do this with pretty minimal investment.

No they can't. The main purpose of a summoner build is to not have to build defenses because you can just hide in the corner.

To fully tank sirus, you need huge investments on a summoner mainly due to the fact that all the points and cluster investment is in minion damage and you need big dick gear to make up the lack of defs

You CAN run around while sirus dies. You CANNOT sit there and tank sirus. Even the "afk mageblood/prison stasis 1500-2000ex spider build" this league. I made one and it died the moment you sit there. You have to constantly move around and dodge things.

This post was edited by allience on Dec 30 2021 05:42pm

I was tanking sirus meteor on 200 ex investment, guess you just didn't build tanky enough.

Meteor isn't relatively hard to tank. 25% mixed damage, most summoners have 82% res. Then molten shell and armor on top. The rest is. Especially on a minimal budget.

Do that in a simulacrum. I'll give you my int stacker.

Also 200 ex is a far cry from what you would consider minimal investment considering you can league start golemancer with 2 iron points and 3 ex and do sirus. You can do it, with huge investment like I said in original comment. But once you start doing simus and blight ravaged/deli, summoners can't tank those content at all, you have to avoid stuff and dodge. Degen ground kills you almost instantly, even through that new stasis armor unfortunately.

Not to mention, if you're using only 200ex and focusing only on tankiness, your summons have almost zero dmg. Unless you got mageblood for free off the ground.

You're right, however, in saying that I didn't focus 100% on tankiness. I tested it out doing afk simus and blight ravaged and it didn't work. 100k+ def, 84% res all with +1gem/1max res brass dome, etc. And so many things still one shot you in simus, it doesn't matter. Damage sucked and you ended up failing more than finishing. Switched to a slightly less tankier setup (5k life,, 65k armor and 84 res/75 cr still, but 4x more dmg) and never died in simus. I just set the one unique flask to always use when full and ran around phased. Did 500+ wave 30 simus on that char before funding my int stacker, died 4 times I can count. Was I able to tank anything? Absolutely not. Some of those mods would one shot me if I stood still. But I was averaging 24 min simus deathless.

This post was edited by allience on Dec 30 2021 06:59pm

I did 30 to 40 30 simulcrum waves in a row on my summoner and i afked all of them lol.
I did have a mage blood though, but HH would have worked in a pinch with some movement.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 30 2021 07:09pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz-hUzYyk-g

Running around isn't afk. This guy has over a couple of mirrors invested and he still gets one shotted.

He also plays minion builds every league, even more so than ghazzy.

Show me a video of you sitting there, not dodging anything or moving around in a wave 30 simu.

EDIT: For some reason, I was under the impression this guy wanted an afk build. My only argument is that summoners can no longer afk like they used to. TLDR, most summoner builds that are super efficient and considered "End game" isn't realistically tanky. You survive one shot, unless you run into triple mod simus or juiced deli maps. Scorch will rape you. Most people focus all on damage and build their defenses off of mageblood/stasis/brassdome.

This post was edited by allience on Dec 30 2021 07:19pm