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Sep 10 2019 08:49pm
With the changes to Poet's Pen and consecrate no longer having a cooldown I was wondering if someone could help with possible dps numbers

With the new Necro ascendancy nodes you have insane attack speed because of corpse pact, and with Essence of Glutton I feel it would synergize very well with Indigon and Mind over Matter.

Unique's used would be Kaom's Heart, 2x Poets Pen, Fevered Mind, Indigon, 3x Cobalt Grand Spectrum Jewels

Rare's in other gear slots for the Resistance/life rolls. Also I just cant think of other essential uniques

Gloves (Insanity Essence for Socketed Skill Attack Speed)
Frenzy(1)
Greater Multiple Projectiles
Faster Attacks
Combustion

Helm
Desecrate
Enfeeble
Cast when Damage Taken
Spirit Offering

Boots
Vaal Righteous Fire
Clarity
Flame Dash
Arcane Surge

Weapon
Volatile Dead
Concentrated Effect
Spell Cascade

Offhand
Desecrate
Spell Cascade
(?)

No Idea on Skill Tree this was just an idea I had when I saw the changes but I also have no clue if it would be good dps either.

This post was edited by Bloodythirsty on Sep 10 2019 08:49pm
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Sep 10 2019 10:32pm
not think spell cascade works on trigger skills
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Sep 10 2019 10:57pm
Quote (Tommyvv @ Sep 11 2019 12:32am)
not think spell cascade works on trigger skills


correct me if I'm wrong but i was pretty sure it worked with PP
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Quote (Bloodythirsty @ Sep 11 2019 06:57am)
correct me if I'm wrong but i was pretty sure it worked with PP


what is PP?

your wright anywhy!

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Spell_Cascade_Support
Although Spell Cascade Support cannot support Totem, Trap, or Mine skills, it does work with Triggered skills like Cast when Damage Taken.



thats pretty sick with a 0sec cooldown desecrate
and with cascade-volatile-cwdt



e// however
desecrate have max 10 corpses, so instead of giving 15 corpse from cascade-desecrate, it may only give 10, gone test it now

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Sep 11 2019 06:56am
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Quote (Tommyvv @ Sep 11 2019 08:51am)
what is PP?

your wright anywhy!

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Spell_Cascade_Support
Although Spell Cascade Support cannot support Totem, Trap, or Mine skills, it does work with Triggered skills like Cast when Damage Taken.



thats pretty sick with a 0sec cooldown desecrate
and with cascade-volatile-cwdt



e// however
desecrate have max 10 corpses, so instead of giving 15 corpse from cascade-desecrate, it may only give 10, gone test it now



let me know how it goes, also PP=Poets Pen :P
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Sep 11 2019 07:58am
weapon1
spell cascade
volatile
desecrate

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Poet%27s_Pen
you not want twice spell cascade in your weapons, and you want as little as posible support gems, to replace them with active gems
a active gem, allow you to increase your attack speed even more

1sec/0.15sec cooldown = 6.666aps required per active gem
5active gems*6.666aps = 33.33aps required

1.68base attack speed on poets*1.15duel wield = 1.932base weapon aps
6.66/1.932-1*100=244%attack speed needed
33.33/1.932=1625%attack speed required for maximum disco, 5 active gems in weapons

1625/4sec recently/2=203corpse per second to blow up!

10desecrae cascade * 6.666aps per active gem = 66.6corpse per second

thats why you link skeleton in weapon, to trigger heartbound loop, to trigger cwdt-cascade-desecrate-offering-offering-gmp unearth

weapon2
gmp-unearth-skeleton(mage jewel)


e/ you want 2 offering skills
spririt offering, to heal-es
overwrith it and destroy the max-es, with flesh offering or bone offering
spam them 4times per sec with your heartbound-skeleton, to increase attack speed
gtfo from koams heart zero disco body armour, you want sockets lol

e2/ also, lets talk about zombie corpse gloves!
someone should donut them to me, since i like Teemo support aswell!

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Sep 11 2019 08:11am
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Sep 11 2019 09:23am
Two reasons I haven't put more thought into this idea: I am pretty sure corpse pact will get nerfed, and over 13 APS~ is bad for 1 spell per PP since you'll exceed the ICD...BUT, if you could hit 25 APS (even possible? I dunno) you could cast 2x as many spells, 2x more corpses...but with such high APS, it may be hard to balance indigon mana usage without losing attack speed since you would be trying to balance mana spent vs corpses consumed. You either go 1 spell in each and try to not exceed 6.5 aps per weapon (.15*6.5 = .975, can't exceed 1 or you lose damage) - not sure on the maths but basically you'd need to find the sweet spot to avoid long/ineffective ramp-up time, while not waste corpse pact (exceeding 13 aps to quickly), while managing your mana expenditure (new enduring mod on mana flask would hlep, but you have no mana leech now). Or you go 2 spells in each and try to double your APS again - something like cascade-dese-unearth (may suck, not sure what to do since you want GMP with unearth for corpses) and cascade-vd-offering

Alternatively/in addition you could try to automate mass corpse generation with eye of innocence self ignite and cwdt 4link (helm/glove/boot)
cwdt-cascade-dese-offering
cwdt-gmp-unearth-offering
cwdt-firestorm-ball light-combustion

You can also get 25% chance to ignite on flasks now, so you probably can avoid needing to focus on ignite chance like you used to for max triggers.

It may be a bit too much to balance, might not. I haven't run any of the numbers, and I don't know if you can create/consume corpses efficiently like this, since you can only have a max of 10 from dese and 10 from unearth...ideally the offering would consume all excess after VD.

This post was edited by Commm on Sep 11 2019 09:28am
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pls guys post videos of your builds in action !! :o
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Sep 11 2019 03:20pm
PP only has three sockets and your going to waste them with a spell cascade setup? Put your damage into your pens and dont waste those slots.

Spell cascade/spell echo/desecrate/faster casting in some insanity gloves. Bis for corpse creation and you can run PP or totems with your VD.
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Sep 11 2019 03:43pm
Quote (Sh00p @ Sep 11 2019 05:20pm)
PP only has three sockets and your going to waste them with a spell cascade setup? Put your damage into your pens and dont waste those slots.

Spell cascade/spell echo/desecrate/faster casting in some insanity gloves. Bis for corpse creation and you can run PP or totems with your VD.


You can only have 10 corpses from desecrate, not sure why you would spell echo and cascade.

While I agree you'd want to maximum your more multipliers on VD in your pen (ele focus/conc etc), the idea is consuming maximum corpses for maximum aps, and dmg from indigon. 2000% increased vs 90% more...

This post was edited by Commm on Sep 11 2019 03:48pm
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